# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11403 "2012-02-10T15:13:08Z")

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That would be awesome, sir! And just what I’d expect from a Knight who says “Ja”!

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11404 "2012-02-10T20:27:02Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> This is a player-organized, just-for-fun ‘event’, but it puts a whole new spin on the game when you approach it from the perspective of “death means _ **DEATH** _”. I just rolled a new toon (an Undead Priest) last night to give it a try, and I’ve gotten all the way to Level 8 without any close calls yet 🙂

Would be quite a cry fest at level 84 when the sky turns all red and some winged creature spews a bunch of fire on the ground…:eek:

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11405 "2012-02-10T23:03:03Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Would be quite a cry fest at level 84 when the sky turns all red and some winged creature spews a bunch of fire on the ground…:eek:

If the sky turns red, get out of combat NOW and take to the air. You can survive if you’re flying.

If you’re flying, you’re safe if you don’t land to investigate. If you’re playing Ironman Hardcore, I’m sure you will have had curiosity beaten out of you many times by the time you reach level 84.

Hell, the only sane way to play that way is extreme caution with a high-survivability class. Plate healer, for instance, or somebody with a reliable combat breaker. Too bad you can’t have a Night Elf paladin.

Maybe hunter, since you have a pool of health outside of yourself that you can sacrifice if you have to, and you still have a pretty good combat break. God only knows how many times my main has saved his life by running away while my polar bear bravely held off the bad guys.

But anyway, yeah, I think the best hardcore war stories are the unfair, unavoidable, unforeseeable deaths.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11406 "2012-02-10T23:27:19Z")

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Did I miss something in the patch notes?

I noticed my hit chance on my mage has inexplicably dropped from 16.50% to about 14%, yet on mouseover my chance of missing is 0% for everything. It’s like the hit cap has been lowered or something…

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11407 "2012-02-11T10:39:47Z")

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**Oak** ,

Sorry we keep missing each other in-game. Can you give me a specific time when you’ll be on and I’ll just arrange to be on at that time. Are you on the west coast?

Just let me know.

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11408 "2012-02-11T13:25:06Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Did I miss something in the patch notes?
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> I noticed my hit chance on my mage has inexplicably dropped from 16.50% to about 14%, yet on mouseover my chance of missing is 0% for everything. It’s like the hit cap has been lowered or something…

No, you’re just looking at your melee/ranged hit instead of your spell hit, we all make that mistake occasionally . 🙂

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11409 "2012-02-12T00:57:40Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> **Sub** ,
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> Yeah, I have all that, but maybe I’ve chosen the wrong icon, because it USED to be the icon for the gun. I thought I had everything right when instead of “Shoot”, I typed in “THROW” as the command, but then I got the message that it must be a “ranged” weapon.
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> This is the kind of shit that gets me confused: code. I’ve looked all over the net on how to create WoW macros, but I can’t even understand the instructions! 🙂
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> About the dots: I don’t know. I was walking on water when I tried to go into attack mode in the “Rattling Their Cages” daily, but in addition to the dots, some of my actions were not lit up, so I didn’t attack. When I pulled away and rode **Silka** down the river on top of the water, those dots eventually disappeared.
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> First chance I got, I put the gun back where the throwing axe was (on character screen), and all was hunky dory from there on out.
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> Thanks
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> Q

I took a look at the macro I use, and it’s slightly different, and in my opinion better, than the one you linked to. Mine is:

```auto

#showtooltip 18
/cast [equipped:Thrown] Throw; Shoot

```

This will cast ‘Throw’ if you have a ‘thrown weapon’ equipped, and will cast ‘Shoot’ if you have any other type of weapon, so it will work with guns, bows, crossbows, or wands.

The '#showtooltip 18" tells WoW to use the icon for whatever is in Slot 18 on your character, which is the ‘Ranged’ slot. So whatever weapon you have equipped, the macro will show that icon. When you are creating the macro, choose the ‘Red question Mark’ icon for it. This allows the game to change the actual icon as necessary.

So the steps are:  
[ul][li]Open the Macro Editor (/macro or /m in the chat window)[/li][li]Create a New macro. Give it whatever name you want, and chose the ‘Question Mark’ icon for it[/li][li]Type the text as shown above in the window under ‘Enter Macro Commands:’[/ul][/li]  
At this point, the macro should show in the list at the top of the Macro window, and it should have the icon of whatever ranged weapon you have equipped. Just drag that Macro Button onto your toolbar in place of the ‘Throw’ or ‘Shoot’ button that you presumably already have there, and you should be good to go.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11410 "2012-02-12T16:55:53Z")

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Did some dungeon runs on my baby 'lock this morning. Twice in a row I got Deadmines joined in progress right before the ship, so no quest credit. Finally got a fresh Shadowfang Keep run, but no loot dropped for 'locks. Did get some cloth pants from the quest chain in that one. Oddly, I seemed to have the option to roll need on anything that dropped, even stuff my class can’t use. Don’t think you can do that in upper level dungeons…or maybe I just haven’t been paying attention to stuff I know I can’t use.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11411 "2012-02-13T19:11:21Z")

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**Subbie** ,

That worked just fine. Thanks!

**Oak** ,

Thanks for the elixir! I love using that stuff on top of the water. Especially when I’m in Uldum fishing for that special catfish one uses for the casserole. It keeps me off the shore where those seprents can sneak up on ya’! 😉

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11412 "2012-02-14T00:55:07Z")

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Those charm bracelets: I got the achievement “Charmed” with ten of them and I know you can give them to the head honchos (kings, etc) of the various cities, but can I stick some into the guild vault for my guildies to use?

I ask because every now and then I’ll see someone on the trade channel advertising them for sale.

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11413 "2012-02-14T01:40:18Z")

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The bracelets will become useless when the holiday ends. Dunno if they will just disappear, or if they will still exist and be usable next year.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11414 "2012-02-14T03:27:48Z")

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Anyone know where Muradin Bronzebeard is in Ironforge? I wanna give him this fuckin’ bracelet. I’m standing right in front of the bank in IF?

**Oak** , so when this is done on the 18th I can either make them disappear or they’ll do so on their own, I understand. Meanwhile though, they’re taking up room in my bags and if my guildies can’t use 'em I might as well make them vanish, right, since they have no vendor sales value?

Thanks

Q

Never mind: I found him.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11415 "2012-02-14T05:10:16Z")

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Unless y’all know of a reason why I shouldn’t, I want to get rid of my Valiant’s and Aspirant’s Seals. They’ve been in my bank forever and AFAIK, they’re no longer of any use to me, right?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11416 "2012-02-14T08:26:59Z")

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I’d sell the bracelets for whatever you can get for them. I’ve seen them go for 25-100 gold each. I sold three the other night for 40 gold each.

The dwarven king is in his hall, almost directly “behind” the bank, on the inner circle of Ironforge. If you have the quest, and you have a bracelet in your inventory, there is probably a yellow ? on your minimap marking where he stands.

Put another way, if you leave the Ironforge bank, facing the AH, turn to your left. You should see a small doorway, leading to a short hallway…this leads you to the inner circle of Ironforge. To your right as you face the center is the Flightmaster. To your left, sorta around a corner of the building, is the King’s room.

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**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11417 "2012-02-14T18:36:56Z")

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So my guild finally got Deathwing down on 10 man normal last night.

I’ve been telling myself for some time now that i was gonna stick around to see that through, and then probably seriously cut back my play time. Maybe even quit the game. The lore surronding the next XPAC has me pretty uninspired, but i don’t i’m ready to quit all together. I guess i will make my decision over the comming months.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11418 "2012-02-14T18:42:37Z")

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> [@Clawdio](#):
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> So my guild finally got Deathwing down on 10 man normal last night.
> 
> I’ve been telling myself for some time now that i was gonna stick around to see that through, and then probably seriously cut back my play time. Maybe even quit the game. The lore surronding the next XPAC has me pretty uninspired, but i don’t i’m ready to quit all together. I guess i will make my decision over the comming months.

I see a lot of this happening. It’s rampant in my guild–our #1 progression team left en masse to go join a more progressed guild on the Alliance side, and most of our other raid teams (including mine, which was #2) have kind of succumbed to malaise. I’m suffering from a severe case of WoW burnout right now, and I honestly don’t know if PandaLand will fix it. This is problematic since with the departure of our main team, I’m now the GM of a guild with over 400 toons in it. I’m sticking it out for now but if my burnout doesn’t lift by MoP, I’ll probably pass off the GM seat to somebody else and settle back into a life of casual obscurity (and SWTOR).

Informal survey: How many of our Doper WoWbies aren’t feeling the love lately? I see this as a pretty pervasive thing–several friends on different servers have reported it as well.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11419 "2012-02-14T18:55:51Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I’d sell the bracelets for whatever you can get for them. I’ve seen them go for 25-100 gold each. I sold three the other night for 40 gold each.
> 
> The dwarven king is in his hall, almost directly “behind” the bank, on the inner circle of Ironforge. If you have the quest, and you have a bracelet in your inventory, there is probably a yellow ? on your minimap marking where he stands.
> 
> Put another way, if you leave the Ironforge bank, facing the AH, turn to your left. You should see a small doorway, leading to a short hallway…this leads you to the inner circle of Ironforge. To your right as you face the center is the Flightmaster. To your left, sorta around a corner of the building, is the King’s room.

Yeah, I finally found the king and the elfen queen and got admiration nation as an achievement.

Thanks, Oak

Q

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11420 "2012-02-14T20:59:41Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> Informal survey: How many of our Doper WoWbies aren’t feeling the love lately? I see this as a pretty pervasive thing–several friends on different servers have reported it as well.

I’m still feeling the love, but I’m only entering my third year of play. Cross realm raiding has made me more excited, actually. All the raids are still pretty fresh for me, and I’m still working on achieves for my main.

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**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11421 "2012-02-14T21:26:24Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> Informal survey: How many of our Doper WoWbies aren’t feeling the love lately? I see this as a pretty pervasive thing–several friends on different servers have reported it as well.

i don’t know… this is tough to answer. On one hand we are at the end of the life cycle of an Xpac, which there always seems to be a kind of general malaise. On the other hand, i feel like my server is still pretty active. Personnally i might just be at one of those points where i need to take like a 2 month break.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/11422 "2012-02-14T22:02:21Z")

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I’m still feelin’ it, but only because I’m better at playing than I was a few years ago when I started.

Where I miss the “love” is here in the thread, with so many of our friends gone, but I guess the 2 (the game and the thread) go hand in hand, don’t they?

I’m just glad I have a place to come to if I have questions.

Thanks

Q

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