# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1241 "2010-07-19T18:23:12Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Tsk. I _told_ you about GoGoMount. I never have an issue with wrong mounts even in WG; it gives me ground mounts when the battle’s in progress and flying mounts when it’s not.

I downloaded it! I just haven’t gotten around to setting the damned thing up yet. 😛

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1242 "2010-07-19T18:30:01Z")

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Pretty fun yesterday running the FoS-PoS-HoR chain with Xander, Rolandor, and Rottingbird! We had one pug (Grove?) that stuck with us the entire trip and he held his own as well…I think I died once on Garfrost and I think that was it for the entire run. Xander was awesome on tank and showed us how to take out the HoR spirit mobs by staying in the hallway…just inside the doors! The rest of us had our doubts, but now I’m a believer…that was a better way of handling and being able to see the mobs coming in!

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1243 "2010-07-19T18:47:50Z")

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I’ve heard of that strat and I’ve thought about trying it one of these days. I’d think it would work especially well for Prot Warriors, where having more open space lets our mobility work to our advantage (where I’d think DKs and Paladins, with their ground AOE, would work best with the tight LOS corner).

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1244 "2010-07-19T18:54:57Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I’ve done that while farming in WG. I have my macro set so that it mounts me on a ground mount instead of a flying one while I’m in WG, so that means I have to manually mount a flyer when I’m there outside of battles. There’s nothing quite like the feeling in the pit of your stomach when you hit the spacebar to launch yourself up and away, only to… leap majestically about two feet up and then plummet the whole way down. :smack: Fortunately, I had enough time to click my “naked” button on my Outfitter bar, and at least spared myself the repair bill.

I have my primary ground mount bound to Shift-H (for **H** orse) and my primary flyer bound to Shift-G (for **G** ryphon) (Horse and Gryphon since my human main was the first toon where I keybound the mounts, and then I just got used to those keys. And also those were 2 keys that weren’t already default-bound to something else). And since G and H are right next to each other, it’s not unusual to hit the wrong key. I’m just not usually standing over a 1000-foot drop when I hit the wrong one 😛

And yeah, I have all my toons’ various “outfits” bound to action bar buttons (PvE, PvP, Town, Fishing, Cooking, Naked, though not all outfits on all toons), so I did fortunately have enough time to quickly click “Naked” and avoid a huge repair bill.

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1245 "2010-07-19T19:04:44Z")

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Little Arhiatlel got to heal Uld25 last night. We downed XT, skipped Razor and Ignis, and went on to Kolo. I pulled some fairly respectable healy numbers, all things considered, which makes me a happy little camper. I doubt I’ll ever catch up to our main raid healer (holy priest) in terms of leetness, but at least I’m not disgracing our spec. I do however seem to be more of a Flash Heal user than a Renew user as opposed to 5mans. Uld25 seemed much more hectic to me than say ICC10, I think it’s having a GIANT BLOCK of health bars on my screen that does that.

**Oak** , great to hear that Kahbueme is back up and running!

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1246 "2010-07-19T19:10:21Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I’ve heard of that strat and I’ve thought about trying it one of these days. I’d think it would work especially well for Prot Warriors, where having more open space lets our mobility work to our advantage (where I’d think DKs and Paladins, with their ground AOE, would work best with the tight LOS corner).

It does. Our prot war loves doing that especially since he loves Charge/Intercept/Intervene/Skill of Get Over There Right Now. 😃 He was the only war in the early days of H HOR that I’d go in there with. To be fair though, that method of tanking can be a pain in the ass for melee as I’ve found when DPSing with his prot war alt on my ret pally…

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1247 "2010-07-19T19:49:21Z")

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> [@lizardling](#):
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> I do however seem to be more of a Flash Heal user than a Renew user as opposed to 5mans.

It’s good to use your flash heal, because it gives you a speed boost to your PoH (assuming you have that talent) when you need it, and with the 2-pc T10 bonus it can proc an additional HoT on the target\*

When I raid heal, I usually keep Renew/PoM up on the tank(s) and use Flash Heal as other people take damage in between Circle/Prayer of Healings.

\*I think. I’m doing this from memory.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1248 "2010-07-19T19:50:31Z")

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Okay **Quasi** , here’s my tutorial for riding from Wyrmrest Temple to Dalaran, complete with annotations:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yST8xcYBUGw/hqdefault.jpg "Wyrmrest\_to\_Dalaran") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yST8xcYBUGw)

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**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1249 "2010-07-19T22:22:49Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Anybody got suggestions for Mage glyphs for my frost/arc pvp spec? I’m thinking one of the major glyphs should be either perma-frosty but with no freeze, or the other other that reduces the cooldown for Frosty? Not sure what else is good, though…

Unlike PvE glyphs, PvP glyphs have a little more room for playing with and you “best” choices will depend on your play style and if you do arena, your arena comp.

I wouldn’t give up my Freeze for permanent waterbolt-bot, even though I usually forget that I have Freeze.

If you want to glyph for survivability:  
Glyph of Ice Barrier (stronger Ice Barrier)  
Glyph of Ice Armor (keep the melee and DK’s off you a bit more)  
Glyph of Evocate (probably not much use in arena, but nice to pop away for 6s in a bg and get back to full mana _and health_)

Glyph of Molten Armor will get a you a bit of burst, but crit rating always feels kind of wasted against high resilience targets (and I rarely pvp with molten up, anyway)

Glyph of Mirror Image can be a nice escape trick, especially if you also go invis at the same time. Most people will look for the real mage in the middle of the 3 MIs. If there’s 4 MIs, they might be momentarily confused.

Glyph of Blink might have value if you carry flags.

Glyph of Water Elemental might be helpful, but I find that if I’m really in need of another elemental, I’ll pop cold snap. I like how by default the cooldowns of Icy Veins and Summon Water Elemental match up and you can pop them at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1250 "2010-07-19T22:41:06Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Okay **Quasi** , here’s my tutorial for riding from Wyrmrest Temple to Dalaran, complete with annotations:  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yST8xcYBUGw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yST8xcYBUGw)

**WOW**! That is so neat, **Mister Rik**! I didn’t know you couyld actually film yourself, thanks!

Sorry to just now be getting back to the thread, but I’ve been on the bike.

I do have the flightpath to the temple, so I’ll do this tonight.

Cool!

Thanks again!

Q

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1251 "2010-07-19T22:42:16Z")

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No freeze = no ranged shattercombo = no PvP.

Seriously. Mana gem. Polymorph. Ice barrier. Wards. Slowfall.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1252 "2010-07-20T01:25:54Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> **WOW**! That is so neat, **Mister Rik**! I didn’t know you couyld actually film yourself, thanks!
> 
> Sorry to just now be getting back to the thread, but I’ve been on the bike.
> 
> I do have the flightpath to the temple, so I’ll do this tonight.

One more thing - when you get down on the Path of the Titans (the first broken up road leading from Wyrmrest), you might see a great big Titan guy named Jotun. Don’t worry about him - he won’t attack you if you don’t attack him first 🙂

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1253 "2010-07-20T01:54:55Z")

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Whew! Busy place!

Found flightmaster and created a new path and found the portals. Also made the Alliance Inn my new home.

Thanks, **Mister Rik!**

Quasi

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1254 "2010-07-20T04:37:30Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Whew! Busy place!
> 
> Found flightmaster and created a new path and found the portals. Also made the Alliance Inn my new home.
> 
> Thanks, **Mister Rik!**
> 
> Quasi

You’re very welcome 🙂

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1255 "2010-07-20T05:48:36Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Whew! Busy place!
> 
> Found flightmaster and created a new path and found the portals. Also made the Alliance Inn my new home.
> 
> Thanks, **Mister Rik!**
> 
> Quasi

Heh…I just moved in to The Ledgerdomain Tavern. The upstairs room with the canopy bed is mine 😃

For glyphs, I went with Water Elemental and Ice Armor. Haven’t decided on the minor ones yet. Did notice that Slow Fall doesn’t seem to be working on my Arc/Fire spec…

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1256 "2010-07-20T06:54:44Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> It sounds like that might not be the case, though. From what was said earlier, it sounds like some people \*do \*resent it, and got told to shut up because she’s a healer and her husband is a tank and the group can’t afford to piss them off.
> 
> It’s one thing to say “This is what I want my character to be, even though it’s gimped, because I enjoy it and my raid is okay with it.” It’s another entirely to refuse to admit that the character is gimped and force it on everyone because they can’t raid at all without you or your partner. If it’s the former, more power to her; but if it’s the latter…
> 
> ETA: Here’s what was giving me that impression:  
> There’s not one thing in there about her being a competent player. There’s not one thing in there about how her heals are still good enough or her DPS is still good enough. It’s a bunch of “Don’t piss her off, we can’t afford to lose her/her husband.”)

Sigh. When she healed, it was due to a lack of specialist healers. And in general terms, Thee Shalt Not Piss Off The Healer is a good rule. So is Thee Shalt Not Criticise The Specs Of People You’ve Applied To Join. If you don’t like how they play, don’t join. But would you walk in the door and start saying “oh my God, these walls are so AWFUL! Who paints a living room strawberry?” Uhm… the person whose house you’re in?

The people who were in the guild were perfectly happy to be able to DPS while she healed. Anybody who didn’t like the healing of our healers was welcome to make a better healer and let our moonkin DPS, which is what she would have preferred to do.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1257 "2010-07-20T07:13:35Z")

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I will hit 50 Frost tonight. Where can I pick up that cloak that was recommended many many pages ago?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1258 "2010-07-20T08:50:36Z")

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The Emblem vendors are in Dalaran, in your faction’s Citadel.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1259 "2010-07-20T08:54:57Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> The Emblem vendors are in Dalaran, in your faction’s Citadel.

That would be why I couldn’t find it at Tanks for everything. Will hit 50 triumph also tonight, so it will be a dbl upgrade. Should break 4k GS

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1260 "2010-07-20T13:41:08Z")

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(moved from noob thread)

> [@Help two noobs get started in WoW](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-two-noobs-get-started-in-wow/546422/198):
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> Dunnow, may have been at one of the times when I couldn’t log in. Right now it’s Mr. Chilly, and he’s BoP (I just checked it this morning, after realizing that I only have one BBB left, apparenly I got into a flurry of cleansing backpacks at some point).

Weird, because my Mr. Chilly is definitely BoA (can’t check from work, but 99.9% certain). I wonder if this is different between the Euro & US servers.

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