# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1341 "2010-07-21T21:41:02Z")
I was going to second the recommendation to dump Questhelper. It’s big and with the changes to the default map you don’t really need it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1342 "2010-07-21T21:41:38Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Huh. I wondered about that. I noticed latency was a little higher than usual after I installed Gear Score, Auctioneer, Quest Helper, Omen, Recount, and DBM. Auctioneer I’d advise keeping, but I love it, so I may be a little biased. 😃 I \*did \*recently post a guide to the very basics of how to use it a few days ago, if you’d find that helpful at all. QH you can safely dispense with, assuming you like the functionality of the in-game quest tracker. As \*\*Bosstone \*\*advised, get Skada instead of Recount. It’s lighter-weight. I think it \*may \*also have a threat meter, which would mean you could get rid of Omen, as well. I would suggest trading DBM for Bigwigs or DXE (Deus Vox Encounters), with my personal recommendation being DXE. They’re both lighter on your system than DBM. > [@Oakminster](#): > > Um…about that removing them thing…do I just go in to the addon folder in my WoW directory and delete the ones I don’t work, or is there some uninstall process I need to follow? You said you have the Curse Client–you can uninstall addons through that. But deleting them from the folder works, too. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1343 "2010-07-21T21:43:24Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > \*\*Must \*\*be Alliance; preferably on a PvE server, but at this point I’d say that’s not an absolute requirement. Just out of curiosity, why are you married to Alliance? ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1344 "2010-07-21T21:45:24Z")
The only addons I need for my map is something that shows player and cursor coordinates and something that removes the fog-of-war. Any recommendations? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1345 "2010-07-21T21:47:16Z")
Map Coords is a great, very tiny app and all it does is show player and cursor co-ords. I don’t know what you mean by fog-of-war. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1346 "2010-07-21T21:48:29Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Just out of curiosity, why are you married to Alliance? I don’t ever want this character to not be a Night Elf. She’s got some great racials and I love her animations (attack and jumping). Any time she’s disguised, her movements just feel weird and wrong. > [@FlightlessBird](#): > > The only addons I need for my map is something that shows player and cursor coordinates and something that removes the fog-of-war. Any recommendations? 1.) Coordinates: MapCoords. I \*think \*[this](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/map-coords.aspx) is the right link. 2.) Fog-of-war: You mean the way that your maps start blank and have to be filled in? I’m not sure if there’s anything to get rid of that. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1347 "2010-07-21T22:02:45Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 2.) Fog-of-war: You mean the way that your maps start blank and have to be filled in? I’m not sure if there’s anything to get rid of that. I personally would never get rid of it, even if I could. There’s really no better way to figure out what parts of a zone you haven’t explored if you don’t have it working. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1348 "2010-07-21T22:18:23Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Well, do you need 1,000g? I have plenty sitting around. 😛 Shhh! You’ll summon whatshername from the old thread back from the Twisting Nether! (I can’t remember her name [and would not utter it if I could], but you remember the one who finally got banned for her nonstop begging SFG for gold?) > [@Bosstone](#): > > GearScore’s your big problem, though. It’s constantly talking to the server, getting information on the people around you. Blizzard recently set up a data throttle to keep GS from pinging too often, but it’s still annoying as hell. I’ve noticed it simply no longer gives me _anything_ on some players. I used to use it to ascertain the gear level of the tanks in randoms so I’d know whether I needed to throttle my DPS, but now I can’t do that half the time. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 2.) Fog-of-war: You mean the way that your maps start blank and have to be filled in? I’m not sure if there’s anything to get rid of that. Cartographer will do this. You need to disable the “Look ‘n’ Feel” module, though, because that module stopped working properly and became buggy a few patches ago. Other than that module, Cartographer still works fine. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1349 "2010-07-21T22:48:00Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > As \*\*Bosstone \*\*advised, get Skada instead of Recount. It’s lighter-weight. I think it \*may \*also have a threat meter, which would mean you could get rid of Omen, as well. It does, which is why I said a couple times it replaces Omen as well as Recount. You can set it up to show your threat meters while you’re in combat and targeting an enemy, and it’ll flip back to DPS or healing or deaths or whatever you choose to be tracking when you leave combat. It’s really quite nice. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1350 "2010-07-21T22:55:51Z")
I’ll note that DXE doesn’t do anything for 5mans or some of the older raid content, which is why I tend to keep DBM around. Although nowadays I know the 5mans well enough that I should probably get to uninstalling DBM… If you need to have something around to check on people in pugs, I suggest [ElitistGroup](http://www.nostockui.com/2010/01/use-elitist-group-to-find-out-more/). It gives you a much more nuanced picture of the player – it’ll show you if they’re gemmed/chanted correctly, if they’re rocking PVP gear, if they’re wearing suboptimal gear, active talent spec, and raid experience if applicable. Among other things, but that’s what I look at. I like it because, per the author (Shadowed of sUF fame), you can throttle the communication that it uses to your preferred level – the majority of its communications are user-initiated, plus you can set it to not listen to those channels. Far less spammy than GS’s model. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1351 "2010-07-22T06:52:10Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Heh. According to the Armory, my paladin’s Largest Hit was for 240,740. Don’t ask me where or how I did _that_. Pretty sure it was a vehicle, though, not my paladin herself. The bombing run in Quel’Danas (I think that’s the right spelling), the island north of Eastern Kingdoms, gives that kind of numbers IIRC. Varian and Arthas are related, aren’t they? The family name ought’a be Slowpoke… GS stops talking to the server in combat. To get it to read someone, you need to target that someone off-combat. Once it’s read someone, the data is local and you can see it whenever. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1352 "2010-07-22T08:02:21Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > The only addons I need for my map is something that shows player and cursor coordinates and something that removes the fog-of-war. Any recommendations? Try [Mapster](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mapster.aspx) it has all you need plus the option to hide or show Fog of War for the times you want to see everything and the times you want to know what you’ve discovered. Seems lightweight enough to me but I don’t run many addons. So as mentioned the Battle for Undercity was pretty dull, flung around by a worm for most of it and so many minion deaths I didn’t bother summoning him towards the end. Good lore though so worth it but I wont bother again, the reward was sold to a vendor too. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1353 "2010-07-22T13:35:02Z")
We finally finished Magister’s Terrace last night, although we kind of cheated by bringing in **JayRx** ’s 80 resto druid to heal. Good thing though; otherwise we could not have done it with the group we had ( **Flightlessbird** ’s boomkin was great, but our other dps was our holy priest, and a pug hunter who both put out lowish dps. The hunter was dpsing with a _bear_ pet.) But no matter, we took down Kael’thas, and Mordrin and I got our “Outland Dungeonmaster” achievements. It makes me want to go back and pick up the vanilla dungeons we missed (Stockades and LBRS) for that achievement as well. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1354 "2010-07-22T14:33:29Z")
Grats to the Legion. Friend of mine has had his account locked by Blizzard - says involved in real life transactions or something. Now I paid for his subscription last month (via a time card from the Blizzard store) and he coincidently sent me some cloth in game late last night would Blizzard lock an account for this? Thinking I was getting him to farm cloth for me in return for paying his subscription? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1355 "2010-07-22T14:36:35Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Grats to the Legion. > > Friend of mine has had his account locked by Blizzard - says involved in real life transactions or something. Now I paid for his subscription last month (via a time card from the Blizzard store) and he coincidently sent me some cloth in game late last night would Blizzard lock an account for this? Thinking I was getting him to farm cloth for me in return for paying his subscription? That seems unlikely. Was it really locked (has he checked to see if he can log in?) or did he just receive an e-mail saying it was? Because the latter is almost certainly a phishing scam…I received a similar e-mail the other day. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1356 "2010-07-22T14:45:30Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > I’ll note that DXE doesn’t do anything for 5mans or some of the older raid content, which is why I tend to keep DBM around. Personally, I’ve never missed out by not having a bossmod in five-mans, even when I didn’t massively overgear them (e.g., when I was leveling to 80 right after Wrath came out). > [@Nava](#): > > Varian and Arthas are related, aren’t they? I don’t believe so–two different kingdoms. Arthas Menethil’s family ruled Lordaeron, and Varian Wrynn’s family ruled Stormwind. > [@Skammer](#): > > The hunter was dpsing with a _bear_ pet. :smack: What level do Hunters get their porta-stable at? It could be he was out questing when the random popped, and he just wasn’t near a Stable Master. (I think they’re letting all Hunters access their stables remotely in Cata, which IMO can’t come soon enough. It’s a stupid mechanic.) > [@martu](#): > > Now I paid for his subscription last month (via a time card from the Blizzard store) and he coincidently sent me some cloth in game late last night would Blizzard lock an account for this? Thinking I was getting him to farm cloth for me in return for paying his subscription? Highly doubtful. Mostly, they care about transactions going the other way: him \*paying \*money to \*get \*items in-game. I’m guessing that, at most, you sent him a couple dozen stacks of cloth. You’d need much more than that to even show up on their radar. If this isn’t a phishing scam, chances are your friend bought gold and is just lying to you about it. (Every time I’ve seen a thread like this on the WoW forums, that’s how it turned out.) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1357 "2010-07-22T14:48:38Z")
30% on the ICC buff. I’m looking forward to tonight’s 25-man, should be entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1358 "2010-07-22T14:51:54Z")
Update - I just got an email from our GM telling me to get in touch with my friend to tell him he has been hacked. No idea how she knows. ETA - guild bank cleared by the look of it, joy ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1359 "2010-07-22T15:01:39Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Update - I just got an email from our GM telling me to get in touch with my friend to tell him he has been hacked. No idea how she knows. > > ETA - guild bank cleared by the look of it, joy Well, that mystery’s solved… Did he have an authenticator? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1360 "2010-07-22T15:02:42Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Update - I just got an email from our GM telling me to get in touch with my friend to tell him he has been hacked. No idea how she knows. > > ETA - guild bank cleared by the look of it, joy He needs to contact Blizzard and tell them that he’s been hacked, if he hasn’t already. A guildie of mine got hacked within the last couple days, and the hacker guild-removed him and sold all his gear. He hasn’t been playing much recently, but his son has. He doesn’t have an authenticator, and says he didn’t follow any skeevy E-mails or anything, but he’s pretty sure his son would respond to those “this is a GM and you’re going to be shut down unless you follow this link/go here for a free pet/go here for a free beta key” in-game mails or tells. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=69)