# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/121 "2010-06-11T15:59:30Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > If you guys aren’t doing so already, here’s a good idea: Have the kiting tank pull out a non-combat pet. Mark the non-combat pet with a raid icon that won’t be used by a bossmod during the encounter (I think circle or square usually works well). The other version of this I’ve heard is to use the Argent Gruntling and have him put up a flag. But the raid icon is probably more visible. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/122 "2010-06-11T16:06:07Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I also intend to spend a part of tomorrow specifically reviewing Tankspot videos of all the ICC bosses, even the ones I’ve already cleared. Good idea. Personally, I also like to have the Wowhead and WoWWiki boss pages open, so I can tab over to them and read the details on particular boss abilities and mechanics. > [@](#): > > and it seems weird that the second roll should be offspec only. It’s not weird–it’s downright **stupid**. If they’re rolling for gear, mainspec should \*always \*roll first, even if they’ve already won something. THEN you can factor in who’s already won gear. But a piece should \*never \*go to OS over MS, just because the MS person already won a piece. That’s a recipe for disaster. So, essentially, the priority \*should \*be: 1.) Highest mainspec roll who’s won the least amount of gear out of the mainspec rolls 2.) Highest offspec roll who’s won the least amount of gear out of the offspec rolls If the RL can override anything, I don’t know why they don’t just do a loot council. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > The other version of this I’ve heard is to use the Argent Gruntling and have him put up a flag. But the raid icon is probably more visible. Raid icons can be seen \*\*through \*\*things like mobs and walls. The flag can’t. But there’s no reason you can’t put up a banner \*and \*put a raid icon on it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/123 "2010-06-11T16:07:07Z")
Weirdly, my next best step for a solid upgrade? Normal TOC5. I need to replace Je’Tze’s Bell with [Tears of the Vanquished](http://www.wowhead.com/item=47215) (+84 Int, chance to regain 500 mana on casting a helpful spell). It’s the best Holy Pally trinket I can get right now, and all the better trinkets are in Ulduar, which I don’t have a real hope of getting into these days, certainly not often enough to farm the trinkets I need. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/124 "2010-06-11T16:13:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Good idea. Personally, I also like to have the Wowhead and WoWWiki boss pages open, so I can tab over to them and read the details on particular boss abilities and mechanics. That’s what I’ve been doing, so there’s that at least. > [@](#): > > If the RL can override anything, I don’t know why they don’t just do a loot council. I think it is basically an implicit loot council; the officers reserve the right to modify the rules if the rules lead to a completely crazy situation. Like in the 10-man on Tuesday, where the RL just handed me all the caster gear nobody else wanted rather than insisting on one MS piece per run. Of course, that sort of prerogative requires a lot of trust in the officers, and while I don’t see a real problem with guildies, it _can_ be an issue with puggers. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlehead02](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rattlehead02/32/3944_2.png) [@Rattlehead02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rattlehead02)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/125 "2010-06-11T16:13:27Z")
> [@MannyL](#): > > Ok so I bought my new wireless mouse. It’s a LX310 Laser cordless keyboard and mouse combo system. It has two extra buttons. I want to map one of them to the left action bar slot 10 but don’t know how to do this. > > I tried to go into binding but it doesn’t do anything when I click that button You need to install Setpoint (Logitech’s mouse utility). Go to Mouse Settings (should be an icon in your system tray). You should default to the tab that shows custom key bindings. If not, find that tab. Then you’ll see a Select Programs dropdown. You should see a Manage Programs option just below that. Click that, and locate your Warcraft folder and select wow.exe. Then make sure you have Warcraft selected in the programs dropdown. Find the button you want to re-bind and select Keystoke Assignment. Then just select a key you currently don’t use. F11 and F12 are safe bets. Jeff ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/126 "2010-06-11T16:18:28Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > That’s what I’ve been doing, so there’s that at least.I think it is basically an implicit loot council; the officers reserve the right to modify the rules if the rules lead to a completely crazy situation. I’d think it would just be better to start from a position of non-retarded rules and stick with them. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/127 "2010-06-11T16:20:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I’d think it would just be better to start from a position of non-retarded rules and stick with them. :smack: No argument there. Either way, I’m not too concerned about it. I joined this group because they don’t seem prone to Drama, and I absolutely refuse to instigate any. ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/128 "2010-06-11T16:38:05Z")
> [@](#): > > The other version of this I’ve heard is to use the Argent Gruntling and have him put up a flag. But the raid icon is probably more visible. Our 25 man Ooze kiter pulls out the Gruntling, pops a raid icon on him, and then uses a Papa Hummel’s Old-Fashioned Pet Biscuit to increase his size. Also, if you have DBM, you could type in /dbm arrow nameofkitertank and it’ll put a Questhelper type arrow on your screen pointing to the kiter. Since we raided on Teusday, I had absolutely nothing to do ingame last night and it was a little weird. Ran around on my alt druid and DK on Stormrage to pass the time, one level away from being able to random on the druid so I’ll probably finish that up today. Had a 70 tank in full Sunwell gear lead us through regular UK yesterday on my paladin. That’s some spiffy looking gear that I wouldn’t mind having for my warrior. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/129 "2010-06-11T18:01:44Z")
> [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > Had a 70 tank in full Sunwell gear lead us through regular UK yesterday on my paladin. That’s some spiffy looking gear that I wouldn’t mind having for my warrior. T6 was damned sexy. I’m not too happy with my current Steaming Pig shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/130 "2010-06-11T18:40:28Z")
Druids have the worst looking tier gear (especially T10) by far. I haven’t enjoyed druid tier since T5. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/131 "2010-06-11T19:08:31Z")
> [@Daedelus](#): > > Druids have the worst looking tier gear (especially T10) by far. I haven’t enjoyed druid tier since T5. I like Druid T10! I’ll agree that T5 was awesome, though–many fond memories of staring at my pocket healer’s bloomin’ shoulders. 😃 (He actually passed up at least one T6 upgrade 'cause he hated how it looked.) T6 was good or bad, depending on the character model. T7 and 8 I’m blanking on, and I don’t have the patience to sort through screenshots to try to remember. T9 I liked, at least on female models, but it wasn’t particularly Druid-y. Hands-down, though, the sexiest tier set of this entire expansion was Warlock T8. I was lusting after the model ever since the Wrathgate cinematic, and you have no idea how much my Warlock friend teased me when it came out that he would actually get to wear it. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/132 "2010-06-11T19:23:11Z")
You like the weird eyeball shoulders and insect/horn helm? Really? I will admit that warlock T8 did look great. I wish they would add a mechanic where you could just choose to skin your tier gear with whatever skin you liked best and still retain stats. That would be awesome, though probably a pipe dream. ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/133 "2010-06-11T19:24:32Z")
I think my tauren warrior looks pretty snazzy in his T10 looking armor. Druid T10 is pretty neat as well, but the shoulders look like they could hop off and gobble down a wandering lowbie while I’m in Org. Shaman T10 is probably my favorite, I like my ghostly shoveltusks. Though I look a bit mismatched with my T10 and badge 264 pieces. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/134 "2010-06-11T19:57:25Z")
> [@Daedelus](#): > > You like the weird eyeball shoulders and insect/horn helm? Really? What tier are you talking about here? Sounds more like Hunter gear. (I think T5 was eyeball shoulders and T10 is the hideous rhino thing.) Druid T10 is chompy shoulders and a bark-y helm. > [@](#): > > I wish they would add a mechanic where you could just choose to skin your tier gear with whatever skin you liked best and still retain stats. That would be awesome, though probably a pipe dream. People have been asking for vanity gear/skinning for a long time. Honestly, it would be nice, since it’s kind of stupid that the better your gear gets, the more you look exactly like every other [Class:Spec] in the game. Of course, the idea of silhouettes play a big role in WoW (you can glance at someone an instantly identify their faction/race/class/spec), so that’s a big argument over them ever enabling that. > [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > I think my tauren warrior looks pretty snazzy in his T10 looking armor. Really? You like the Steaming Shoulder Pigs? (Honestly, I’m okay with the rest of the model, more or less. The prizefighter belt makes me look fat, but I’m getting used to it, and the single broken-off horn isn’t as distracting as it used to me. But the shoulders still bug me.) > [@](#): > > Shaman T10 is probably my favorite, I like my ghostly shoveltusks. I’ll agree that the Shammy T10 shoulders are sexy as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/135 "2010-06-11T20:11:46Z")
I’m talking about T10… I know my own tier gear, you just used different words to describe it. The shoulders have an eyeball over the “chompy shoulders” and there are horns over an insect-like mask. Though, I guess the horns could be “bark-y.” ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/136 "2010-06-11T20:16:03Z")
Yay for Paladins and their mildly-boring-but-never-stupid gear ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/137 "2010-06-11T20:25:44Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Yay for Paladins and their mildly-boring-but-never-stupid gear Yeah, Paladin gear almost always looks good. Also, I’ve never seen Priest tier that I didn’t like, which is annoying because I don’t have a raiding Priest. 😛 Mage gear is usually pretty good too–at least it looks good on male blood elves, and that’s all I really care about since my main is a male blood elf. 🙂 We look good in anything, though…don’t hate us because we’re beautiful. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/138 "2010-06-11T20:30:41Z")
Death Knight T8 was awesome; the T9 mask looks goofy and probably contributed to my abandonment of poor old Muzungu in favor of my shadow priest. But what really bugs me is the Shaman BoA shoulders - what the heck are those sticking-up thingies? ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/139 "2010-06-11T20:31:02Z")
I dunno… T1 was the banana suit and I think T5 was the Power Ranger outfit for paladins, no? Though I do like paladin T10. And I always thought male blood elves looked a little… nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/140 "2010-06-11T20:36:32Z")
> [@Daedelus](#): > > I dunno… T1 was the banana suit and I think T5 was the Power Ranger outfit for paladins, no? Though I do like paladin T10. > > And I always thought male blood elves looked a little… nevermind. Dude, Tier 5 looks slick. I wish I had that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=8)