# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1401 "2010-07-23T07:40:56Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I don’t believe so–two different kingdoms. Arthas Menethil’s family ruled Lordaeron, and Varian Wrynn’s family ruled Stormwind.

I know, but them royals tend to interbreed.

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> What level do Hunters get their porta-stable at? It could be he was out questing when the random popped, and he just wasn’t near a Stable Master.

I don’t remember either, but there is a stablemaster at every single inn. Pop out, go to an inn, pop back. Actually, seeing that he was in QD, it’s even worse, all he needed to do was stop at the inn on the way to the instance.

What’s more likely is that he never bothered get a second pet, the last time I told a level 80 hunter that “you can have more than one pet” was this same week. I’d popped in with my Croc out, switched to the wolf, the other hunter went “wait a minute, didn’t you have a hydra?” “well, it’s actually a croc, but yeah, I just swapped pets” “uh?” I love playing a hunter, but damnit we DO get some braindead peeps!  
_raises hand_ another one for the fanfic please line. Sometimes that’s better written than the official stories…

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1402 "2010-07-23T08:29:57Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I don’t remember either, but there is a stablemaster at every single inn. Pop out, go to an inn, pop back. Actually, seeing that he was in QD, it’s even worse, all he needed to do was stop at the inn on the way to the instance.
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> What’s more likely is that he never bothered get a second pet, the last time I told a level 80 hunter that “you can have more than one pet” was this same week. I’d popped in with my Croc out, switched to the wolf, the other hunter went “wait a minute, didn’t you have a hydra?” “well, it’s actually a croc, but yeah, I just swapped pets” “uh?” I love playing a hunter, but damnit we DO get some braindead peeps!

I have to agree with this as I take my lock through the WOTLK dungeons I am seeing a lot of hunters many of them bad. I’ll also add whiny to it too - last night I was in a group of myself and two hunters in Azjol-Nerub and one of the hunters was doing very poor DPS from the off. For the rest of the run the healer and other hunter moaned about this and even tried to kick (I refused and obviously so did our tank) after the first boss even though we got through without any trouble. If the mobs are dying what’s the problem? Hell my dps was about 20% more than the moaning hunter (heirlooms helped here obviously) but no complaints from me.

Why are cloth helms so terrible looking in WOTLK? I haven’t found one I have liked the look of yet. All I want is a hood that covers the whole head and shrouds her in a bit of evil looking secrecy.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1403 "2010-07-23T10:29:36Z")

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> [@martu](#):
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> Why are [del]cloth[/del] helms so terrible looking in WOTLK?

The one I have right now looks like a cow’s skull wearing a gas mask. The one I’m saving for has a serrated rhino horn. Half the colors are uglier than beating your dad up with a half-brick in a sweaty sock and then asking for your allowance.

Speaking of style: given that shoulderpads keep getting biggah, has anybody tried to extrapolate at what level will they be bigger than our heads? Right now, I was playing with the “make your little statue” webpage and in several action poses the pads hide my face completely.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1404 "2010-07-23T10:58:41Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I love playing a hunter, but damnit we DO get some braindead peeps!

I met a lvl 80 hunter in one of the ICC heroic dungeons who was complaining about being low mana, and even sat down to drink. :smack: I restrained myself from commenting further than “Aspect of the Viper! :D” when he complained at one point. I mean, seriously, my hunter will swap to Viper during long boss fights if need be, and swap right back when full up. I use Viper Notify to ding at me when I’m nearly full, as a reminder.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1405 "2010-07-23T12:39:33Z")

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> [@martu](#):
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> Why are cloth helms so terrible looking in WOTLK? I haven’t found one I have liked the look of yet. All I want is a hood that covers the whole head and shrouds her in a bit of evil looking secrecy.

I like the Tier 9 Priest helm (which of course is no help to you), even though it’s more of a mask than a hood. I also loved the voodoo mask I had back in my 50s.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1406 "2010-07-23T13:21:07Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I like the Tier 9 Priest helm (which of course is no help to you), even though it’s more of a mask than a hood. I also loved the voodoo mask I had back in my 50s.

I liked the priest hood – I think it was the 245 off-tier maybe? – anyway, the one that was more of a big collar with a medallion hanging down. It exposed my big, bald, rotting head it all it’s glory. The T10 cloth head isn’t bad though.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1407 "2010-07-23T14:35:56Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> Got that posted anywhere, perchance? I’d definitely be up for reading some Illidan/Kael or even Jaina/Kael (I’m a hopeless Kael fan) as long as it’s not too X-rated. 🙂

[Emerald Embers](http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=emerald_embers&keyword=My+fics:+Warcraft&filter=all) writes a mix of Illidan/Kael and people/Jaina, and [the Ivory Tower](http://the--ivorytower.livejournal.com/tag/) writes a lot of everything (just scroll down to Warcraft Pairings on the page).

Everything else I found was shameless porn, sorry! 😉

Edit: Oh, and there’s a really darkfic [here](http://community.livejournal.com/wowfics/28099.html) with Lich King Arthas kidnapping Jaina. But it’s interesting to look at what he’s thinking.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1408 "2010-07-23T15:44:19Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Strange. When I just did my walk-thru, all the information was already there.

Weird, indeed. I should poke around and see if I can get it to save my info–it’s annoying to have to re-enter it all the time.

> [@Nava](#):
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> I know, but them royals tend to interbreed.

Psh, nobody has sex in WoW. Or poops, for that matter. (Think about it… there are something like \*two \*outhouses in the _entire world_.)

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> I don’t remember either, but there is a stablemaster at every single inn. Pop out, go to an inn, pop back.

Easier said than done, if you’re halfway across the zone from an inn and your hearth is down. Not to mention, you’re probably halfway across the zone for a reason, and it can be a pain in the ass to get back there again. This is actually why I’ve taken to just questing with my Ferocity pet on my Hunter anytime I’m in an RDF queue.

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> Actually, seeing that he was in QD, it’s even worse, all he needed to do was stop at the inn on the way to the instance.

That’s pretty inexcusable, though. Well, unless he didn’t know there was an inn there. (I never noticed a Stable Master, but then again, I was never on QD with a Hunter.)

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> Sometimes [fanfic is] better written than the official stories…

Knaak is \*so \*terrible, that’s not saying much. (Honestly, whoever first decided to pay that man to write should be shot, as both a service to humanity and a warning to other.)

> [@Nava](#):
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> Right now, I was playing with the “make your little statue” webpage and in several action poses the pads hide my face completely.

The shoulders on my Warrior clip through my face on a lot of my animations–and have for all of my tier gear in Wrath, IIRC (and I’ve had all four tiers).

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1409 "2010-07-23T15:52:22Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Or poops, for that matter.

Except ogres (copiously). And felhounds.

ETA: And the stone giants in Azshara. (Just did the blue crystal quest last night)

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1410 "2010-07-23T15:54:49Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Psh, nobody has sex in WoW. Or poops, for that matter. (Think about it… there are something like \*two \*outhouses in the _entire world_.)

Plus the one’s got a zombie in it, and the other (IIRC) has a ticked-off dwarf!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1411 "2010-07-23T15:56:26Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> Plus the one’s got a zombie in it, and the other (IIRC) has a ticked-off dwarf!

There’s also a (small) row of outhouses on the Tourney grounds (next to the main jousting arena).

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1412 "2010-07-23T15:56:50Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Except ogres (copiously). And felhounds.
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> ETA: And the stone giants in Azshara. (Just did the blue crystal quest last night)

And the critters in Nagrand - you clean up after them in the “Rare Bean” quest.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1413 "2010-07-23T16:00:53Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> And the critters in Nagrand - you clean up after them in the “Rare Bean” quest.

Damn…forgot about that one. Not only that, but you eventually EAT what you pulled out of those piles… (Hey, a 5-minute water breathing spell? That’s damn useful!)

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1414 "2010-07-23T16:01:54Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That’s pretty inexcusable, though. Well, unless he didn’t know there was an inn there. (I never noticed a Stable Master, but then again, I was never on QD with a Hunter.)

That’s pretty likely – he seemed pretty new or at least new to the Hunter class. At one point he was wondering if he should take a drop that was mail with a bunch of spellpower and MP5. But, at least he was asking. I forgot to check if he was in a guild or anything.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1415 "2010-07-23T16:09:47Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Except ogres (copiously). And felhounds.
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> ETA: And the stone giants in Azshara. (Just did the blue crystal quest last night)

And, besides the talbuks \*\*Ferret Herder \*\*mentioned, some wolves in Northrend.

But anyway, nobody ever poops _in the towns or the cities_, is my point. 😛

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1416 "2010-07-23T16:31:47Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Damn…forgot about that one. Not only that, but you eventually EAT what you pulled out of those piles… (Hey, a 5-minute water breathing spell? That’s damn useful!)

That particular quest [has a basis in reality](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak), disgustingly enough.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1417 "2010-07-23T16:47:46Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> And, besides the talbuks \*\*Ferret Herder \*\*mentioned, some wolves in Northrend.
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> But anyway, nobody ever poops _in the towns or the cities_, is my point. 😛

Please…Stormwinders poop in the canals. Ironforgers stand on those grates and poop into the lava. Exodarans have high-technology toilets that teleport the poop out of them into the ocean. Darnassians poop, but it’s okay to just leave around…their shit don’t stink.

Orgrimmar’s already messy enough that nobody notices the poop. Thunder Bluffers are a bunch of cows…they just poop over the side of the cliff and the stuff on the ground grows better. Undead don’t poop, although I don’t really want to know what’s in those canals. Blood Elves are elves…see Darnassians above.

Goblins probably use their poop to fuel their gadgets. Worgen just go to the park.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1418 "2010-07-23T16:48:59Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> And the critters in Nagrand - you clean up after them in the “Rare Bean” quest.

Isn’t there an Alliance quest where you eat something you shouldn’t and you end up having to take something that makes you have explosive diarrhea until you “recover” the item in question?

I’m not Alliance, so I haven’t had the “fun” of doing that particular quest, but I’ve heard about it. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1419 "2010-07-23T17:11:08Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Please…Stormwinders poop in the canals. Ironforgers stand on those grates and poop into the lava. Exodarans have high-technology toilets that teleport the poop out of them into the ocean. Darnassians poop, but it’s okay to just leave around…their shit don’t stink.
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> Orgrimmar’s already messy enough that nobody notices the poop. Thunder Bluffers are a bunch of cows…they just poop over the side of the cliff and the stuff on the ground grows better. Undead don’t poop, although I don’t really want to know what’s in those canals. Blood Elves are elves…see Darnassians above.
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> Goblins probably use their poop to fuel their gadgets. Worgen just go to the park.

I have this picture in my head of some poor snooty Blood Elf going to Thunder Bluff and waiting for the elevator going up and getting pooped on. Just like birds! Only…yeah, a lot bigger.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1420 "2010-07-23T17:11:43Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> Isn’t there an Alliance quest where you eat something you shouldn’t and you end up having to take something that makes you have explosive diarrhea until you “recover” the item in question?

There’s one in Borean Tundra where \*wolves \*have eaten some microfilm, and you make \*them \*shit all over the place until you recover it.

ETA: **jayjay** , that was fucking _priceless_. 😃

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