# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1581 "2010-07-29T18:52:31Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > (This actually makes me wonder how many people out there simply don’t carry their own buff food. Despite providing Fish Feasts to her random groups, my paladin never eats them herself - she eats her Dragonfin Filet.) I carry my own buff food (well, my priest does; I need to cook up some tank-friendly buff food for Muz), I just don’t generally use it for randoms, since the group overpowers them pretty badly 90% of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1582 "2010-07-29T18:53:11Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > And I have to say that Ensyld is [looking mighty cute in her War Paint mail](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/ensyld_warpaint.jpg)"set" 😛 Dayum. She could be “…knocking me out with those Ironforge-ian thighs…” apologies to AC/DC ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1583 "2010-07-29T19:29:50Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I know I’ve told this story before, but what the heck I knew I forgot something in my megapost! I was going to mention the murloc ringtone you can buy. Unfortunately, it’s not available for my carrier and model phone. ☹ (At least it wasn’t the last time I checked.) > [@winterhawk11](#): > > It’s been awhile (I think this got mentioned way back in the bowels of the previous WoW mega-thread), so I’m going to take this opportunity to recommend [“You Awaken in Razor Hill,”](http://thelittlestmurloc.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=17) an absolutely hilarious multi-part epic written by a guy named Dusk (and yes, it is relevant to the topic at hand). If anybody else needs a version that’s readable somewhere other than your computer, I formatted the whole thing as a single document so I could send it to my Kindle (I think I saved it as an RTF file). If you want a copy, let me know and I’ll email it to you. I was emailing back and forth with the author when I made it, so I don’t think he’d mind if I shared it with someone else–if you’re at all concerned about copyright, I’d be happy to double-check with him before forwarding it. > [@](#): > > And once you read it, take a look at [this screenshot](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Kayoss/518.jpg) from Cataclysm beta. This is made of win. \*Please \*tell me that’s an NPC. 😃 > [@Oakminster](#): > > Lately, I’m staying to the arcane/fire spec. I like playing around with the frost spec, but it just doesn’t seem to put out the same damage, and for PVP it doesn’t have the extra instant I get with Arcane Barrage. A lot of Mages use Frost for PvP because of control (snares and stuns) and survivability. It’s also very mana-efficient. IIRC, for most fights now, the top PvE DPS spec is Arcane. > [@](#): > > On the table before dungeon thing–I don’t mind doing that, but in the ones I do, nobody is waiting for much of anything. That’s why I macro mine with a /yell and pop it as soon as I zone in. It’s something like, **/cast Ritual of Refreshment /yell Come click the portal for a Mage table!** Usually gets everyone to gather 'round. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > This actually makes me wonder how many people out there simply don’t carry their own buff food. Despite providing Fish Feasts to her random groups, my paladin never eats them herself - she eats her Dragonfin Filet. I always carry Dragonfin Filets with me on my main, for when I miss the Fish Feast during an actual raid, but I don’t bother with buff foods at all for Heroics (or any non-ICC PUG raid) unless someone else is dropping a feast. Even on progression fights, I usually will still just eat the fish, since the difference is so negligible for me as Prot (just a bit more threat, which hasn’t been an issue for me). > [@](#): > > _That_ got reported, mainly because he had clearly used some kind of exploit to get up there. Yeah, if there’s no way to actually reach the person, then it’s an exploit and should be reported. (And they’ll probably pick up at least a temporary ban for trying it–a warning at a minimum.) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1584 "2010-07-29T19:40:08Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > \*Please \*tell me that’s an NPC. 😃 It totally is! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1585 "2010-07-29T19:46:25Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > > \*Please \*tell me that’s an NPC. 😃 > > It totally is! 😃 I’m sorta surprised. Isn’t Ted Nugent kinda dated for the teen-to-twenty-something demographic? Maybe there’s a few of us old farts on the Dev team? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1586 "2010-07-29T19:48:01Z")
“The Merchant Coast” isn’t exactly a pun that the teens are going to catch on to, either. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1587 "2010-07-29T19:57:18Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m sorta surprised. Isn’t Ted Nugent kinda dated for the teen-to-twenty-something demographic? Maybe there’s a few of us old farts on the Dev team? It’s not a direct reference to him–the Orc Hunter Tednugent and his Cat, Scratchfever, are the protagonists of _You Awaken on Razor Hill_, the story linked a few posts upthread by **winterhawk11**. (It was originally written as a thread on the official forums, done old-school text-based adventure game style, with the people posting to the thread determining his actions. The thread was so popular, Blizz apparently decided to give it an in-game nod.) ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1588 "2010-07-29T20:19:31Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > That’s why I macro mine with a /yell and pop it as soon as I zone in. It’s something like, > > **/cast Ritual of Refreshment > /yell Come click the portal for a Mage table!** > > Usually gets everyone to gather 'round. Yeah, I do similar with my warlock. I hover my mouse pointer over where the macro hotkey is, then click upon zoning in, and people see in party, “Help me summon, or no healthstones for you!” ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1589 "2010-07-29T20:26:41Z")
Is there any real benefit to buying the Dalaran Brilliance or Dalaran Intellect spells instead of the normal ones? 450 gold a pop seems kinda pricey unless it does something really nice… ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1590 "2010-07-29T20:29:45Z")
I personally make my macro in /yell instead of /party or /raid because I think the bubble is likely to be more noticeable. > [@Oakminster](#): > > Is there any real benefit to buying the Dalaran Brilliance or Dalaran Intellect spells instead of the normal ones? 450 gold a pop seems kinda pricey unless it does something really nice… They’re exactly the same as the standard spells–they just use a different icon. It’s purely for flavor. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1591 "2010-07-29T20:33:15Z")
WoW has a loooot of ways for you to show off bling. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1592 "2010-07-29T20:35:20Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > WoW has a loooot of ways for you to show off bling. Same deal with the various flavors of polymorph (cat, penguin, turtle, etc.) - it’s to be cute. Admittedly, if you happen to have more than one mage, it’s another handy way to determine who’s “sheeped” what. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1593 "2010-07-29T20:43:38Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > > [@Bosstone](#): > > > > WoW has a loooot of ways for you to show off bling. > > Same deal with the various flavors of polymorph (cat, penguin, turtle, etc.) - it’s to be cute. Admittedly, if you happen to have more than one mage, it’s another handy way to determine who’s “sheeped” what. My mage has Polymorph: Black Cat. I don’t care what the price was–he had to have it. I was the first person to Dalaran on our server when WotLK came out, and the very first thing I did (after taking a timestamped screenshot) was run to the shop and buy that spell. It’s the only sheep spell I ever use. He has Turtle, too, but a friend gave me that one. Dalaran Brilliance was the “all the cool kids are doing it” thing in my old guild, so I have that too. Didn’t buy Dalaran Intellect, though. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1594 "2010-07-29T21:01:46Z")
I have the penguin and pig versions of “sheep”. Reckon that’s good enough until I have more gold than I can spend. The War Mammoth mount is going to be my spendy-thing for now, cuz it only costs those stoneshaper marks, which are easy to collect as long as we bounce the horde out of WG tonight. Actually, I suspect we probably have already taken it. Horde really doesn’t seem to put much effort at all into WG on Elune. Most games, only a double handful show up, their towers get trashed in short order, and then we run around in siege vehicles launching bombs at anything that moves until we win. Next really spendy thing I’m getting will prolly be my mechno-hog. Saw one listed on the AH for 15K, think I can probably make it a little cheaper than that. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1595 "2010-07-29T21:20:51Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > On Lightbringer, we had a Horde mage who was somehow getting inside WG Fortress while the Alliance controlled it, … _That_ got reported, mainly because he had clearly used some kind of exploit to get up there. Actually, you can get up there without an exploit, but I think it requires a 310% mount and a bit of luck with lag. Fly in the doors when they’re down, and you can land on that ring, with a little luck. Log out up there, and you can be up there when the door has respawned. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1596 "2010-07-29T21:25:32Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > My mage has Polymorph: Black Cat. I keep meaning to buy that on my Mage–unfortunately, that’s a server where I don’t have a huge overabundance of cash, as I’m still buying BOEs for her. She does, however, have Turtle, Pig, and Penguin. **Oak** : The biggest cost of the bikes is the raw materials that have to be purchased from vendors (or, if you’re very lucky, Engineering-skinned off of mechanical bosses in Ulduar). You \*might \*luck out and find them cheaper on the AH than you can get them from a vendor. I’d recommend checking on weeks when an Ulduar boss (Ignis, Razorscale, or XT) is the weekly raid. You’d be lucky to be able to get all the mats plus the combine fee for under 13k, and if you manage it for under 10k, I’ll probably fall over dead of shock. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1597 "2010-07-29T21:27:48Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > Actually, you can get up there without an exploit, but I think it requires a 310% mount and a bit of luck with lag. Fly in the doors when they’re down, and you can land on that ring, with a little luck. Log out up there, and you can be up there when the door has respawned. Exploit does not necessarily equal hacking. They clearly never intended for people to be able to get up there, and it’s impossible for anyone to come get you once the door has respawned. (Comparable situation: Ensidia getting banned for using bombs to rebuild the LK’s platform to get their world-first kill.) ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1598 "2010-07-29T21:28:57Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > Actually, you can get up there without an exploit, but I think it requires a 310% mount and a bit of luck with lag. Fly in the doors when they’re down, and you can land on that ring, with a little luck. Log out up there, and you can be up there when the door has respawned. Uh, that’s pretty much the definition of exploiting. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1599 "2010-07-29T21:58:55Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > My mage has Polymorph: Black Cat. I don’t care what the price was–he had to have it. I was the first person to Dalaran on our server when WotLK came out, and the very first thing I did (after taking a timestamped screenshot) was run to the shop and buy that spell. It’s the only sheep spell I ever use. He has Turtle, too, but a friend gave me that one. Erm, where is this shop? I don’t believe I’ve seen this place … ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1600 "2010-07-29T22:05:39Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > > [@winterhawk11](#): > > > > My mage has Polymorph: Black Cat. I don’t care what the price was–he had to have it. I was the first person to Dalaran on our server when WotLK came out, and the very first thing I did (after taking a timestamped screenshot) was run to the shop and buy that spell. It’s the only sheep spell I ever use. He has Turtle, too, but a friend gave me that one. > > Erm, where is this shop? I don’t believe I’ve seen this place … It’s right next to the stairway leading up to the Violet Citadel (where Rhonin is) in Dalaran. If you’re facing the stairs, it’ll be on your left. ETA: Polymorph: Black Cat is a limited-availability item; the vendor will only ever have one at a time. If you don’t see it, check back later. I’m not sure what the respawn time on it is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=81)