# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 89
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1761 "2010-08-05T13:43:27Z")
I jumped on my newly 80 pally last night and discovered that I still had time to return the Triumph-emblem libram for the Heroic-emblem libram which had been recommended. I did the return but haven’t purchased the other one yet (I had to log off). Before that, though, I ran regular UP and FoS. I was nervous about FoS but it went fine, although we lost two dps on the final boss. UP was a tanking problem – either a DK with a relatively low health pool or a warrior who couldn’t hold aggro. Between the two of them we managed but it was an adventure. Our BDL Wednesday night alt runs have become just my and my healer friend pugging a random, but we did UK again last night. Healer says my new cobolt armor makes his job easier, so thanks Yeti and I think Shin Kell who made the suggestion. Still trying to negotiate a different night so that I can pug raid on Wednesdays instead; I hate seeing all those people in trade looking for healers and I can’t volunteer when no one needs me on Friday (my current raid night). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1762 "2010-08-05T13:52:07Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Our BDL Wednesday night alt runs have become just my and my healer friend pugging a random, but we did UK again last night. Healer says my new cobolt armor makes his job easier, so thanks Yeti and I think Shin Kell who made the suggestion. Also, a full cobalt suit looks badass. This week’s random on Cairne is ICC, so ICC pugs were relatively plentiful; I picked up a group and healed 'em through Saurfang, at which point I dropped out. I’m now sitting on about 120 Frosts, but I can’t decide if I want to use 'em for my Shadow or Disc spec. Decisions, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1763 "2010-08-05T15:01:05Z")
Oh I forgot to ask about Sacred Shield – am I supposed to keep that up on the tank at all times? Or just at the pull? I’m a little unclear on the mechanics and when to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1764 "2010-08-05T15:19:19Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > > Wah-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. > > You don’t need to be one, just find one. Not sure if you were joking or not, but I did summon Perky Pug near a tree druid last night, while waiting for my random heroic to pop. No interaction with the tree was apparent. ☹ **Tom Scud,** I’ll go back to the jousting thing tonight and try it your way. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1765 "2010-08-05T15:21:43Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Oh I forgot to ask about Sacred Shield – am I supposed to keep that up on the tank at all times? Or just at the pull? I’m a little unclear on the mechanics and when to use it. The only time not to have it up is when you’re PvPing mages and don’t have any trash to cover it, so yes. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1766 "2010-08-05T15:26:37Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Oh I forgot to ask about Sacred Shield – am I supposed to keep that up on the tank at all times? Or just at the pull? I’m a little unclear on the mechanics and when to use it. Sacred Shield is a little weird because it’s a buff that procs a buff that…sort of procs a buff. It breaks down thus: 1. When you cast the ability, the target receives a 30 second (60 talented) buff called Sacred Shield. This in itself provides no bonus; it just tells you that the shield is primed. 2. When the shielded player takes damage, the shield activates for 6 seconds (12 talented) and grants the player a certain amount of damage absorption which is increased by spellpower. The shield will reactivate, renewing the buff timer and renewing the damage absorption, only every 6 seconds. 3. During the active shield time, if you cast Flash of Light on the shielded player the crit chance is increased by 50%. It’s complicated, but what this means on your end as the healer is that once you cast it, it’ll automatically do its thing and you just need to cast FoL to get any more juice out of it. Because the Shield is wholly reliant on the tank taking damage to be of any use, you certainly don’t want to keep it running between pulls if there’s a long downtime. But during combat, it’s always good to keep it running. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1767 "2010-08-05T15:41:07Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > 1. When the shielded player takes damage, the shield activates for 6 seconds (12 talented) and grants the player a certain amount of damage absorption which is increased by spellpower. The shield will reactivate, renewing the buff timer and renewing the damage absorption, only every 6 seconds. So will the buff keep renewing as long as the tank is taking damage? Will I have to recast it during a fight as long as the tank keeps getting hit? I think my problem last night was not not knowing when to cast it, but not knowing when to re-cast it. I think I need to add the buff to my Grid display so I know when it’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1768 "2010-08-05T15:58:34Z")
You only need to recast at the end of the 30- or 60-second mark. During that time, the damage absorption and FoL crit chance will continually renew. And yes, absolutely add it to Grid. I use [GridIndicatorCornerText](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gridindicatorcornertext.aspx) so Sacred Shield’s overall buff counts down in the lower left corner of the target’s Grid box. I think you can set it so the damage/FoL countdown also appears, but I don’t think I have that set. If you have Divine Guardian talented, the damage/FoL bonuses will always be up as long as SS is up. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1769 "2010-08-05T16:05:03Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Annoying night for me. I can’t beat the $#%@! Argent Valiant in the jousting thing. He always nails me with shield break, and mine won’t cast half the time, claiming he’s out of range. OF course, if he actually was out of range, he wouldn’t be hitting me. Lag/latency can be a big problem when jousting. Sometimes you’ll get the NPC apparently tossing a shield breaker and charging you almost simultaneously, when there should be a cooldown between them, or tossing a shield breaker when in melee range, which they shouldn’t be able to do. For what it’s worth, I made a video of myself jousting a while back. It’s more “watch & learn”, since there’s no voiceover or instruction, but it might help: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DYlGbUWYRSk/hqdefault.jpg "Jousting") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlGbUWYRSk) > [@](#): > > Also can’t kill the guy in Voldrune (something like that). It’s the quest where you steal the dragon to use against his elite master, standing on the balcony of his tower. No matter I do, he always kills my dragon, and usually kills me while I’m falling. That’s a really annoying quest. The key is that you have to be in melee range (strange, I know, when one of your attacks is a ranged breath weapon), so you need to fly right smack up to the balcony the dude is standing on. Use the protodrake’s knockdown ability (don’t remember what it’s called) _every time it comes off CD_, and then while he’s stunned, spam your two damage abilities. Lather, rinse, repeat, and he’ll go down fairly quickly. > [@martu](#): > > I made Gaurdian Gloves to get to 200 and bought Heavy Hide from the AH, took me a few days of checking but got enough and all at about 1g per item so quite reasonable. How much is Medium Leather going for? I found it cheaper to buy Medium Leather to turn into Heavy Leather on my server. I’ve been questing in STV, so it actually didn’t take me long to farm up the Heavy Leather I needed. The gorillas were … generous 😃 > [@](#): > > I think wow is telling me to change my main. My 75 warlock has picked up in the last week all the Northrend cooking recipe drops, none of which have ever dropped for my pally, and last night I got the journal for the Find Fish ability while fishing in Terrokar Forest, something again my pally lacks even though his fishing skill is 430-ish now. I’ve had remarkably good luck fishing the book up from the Sagefish pools in in the river in Hillsbrad Foothills. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1770 "2010-08-05T16:06:37Z")
Thanks Bosstone. I’ll add it to Grid so I can watch it like I do Beacon of Light. I don’t have DG talented yet, but I was planning on redoing my talents at 80 anyway to include it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1771 "2010-08-05T16:14:20Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Well that’s weird. I just checked my main’s stats, and it appears I’ve only killed Rivendare 10 times. Those counts aren’t 100% accurate. I seem to recall that all stats got wiped at some point in the past. > [@Oakminster](#): > > I can’t beat the $#%@! Argent Valiant in the jousting thing. Here’s my time-tested jousting technique. 1.) Put up three shields. 2.) Start a match. As you click the dialogue option to initiate it, you should have your target selected already and be spamming your 1 button (melee attack). If you’re lucky, you can get an early hit in with that. 3.) As the jouster rides past you, turn to face them. 4.) Mash your 1 button while you’re in melee range; if they keep going past you far enough, start mashing your 3 button (charge). If you end up charging, close the distance again as fast as you can, mashing the 2 button (shield-breaker) at range and the 1 button while you’re in melee. 5.) Don’t move out of melee range on your own. Stay in place, mashing 1. When the jouster starts moving to range, start mashing 3 until you charge, then mash 2 while you turn back around and close the distance. 6.) Just keep repeating #4 until the jouster is defeated. Don’t forget to keep your shields up: if you lose a stack, get that up ASAP. If you have a three-stack with a low duration remaining (10-20 seconds), re-apply it to keep from having to restack from zero. > [@](#): > > Also can’t kill the guy in Voldrune (something like that). It’s the quest where you steal the dragon to use against his elite master, standing on the balcony of his tower. No matter I do, he always kills my dragon, and usually kills me while I’m falling. Are you reading carefully over the ability descriptions on the vehicle bar that you get when you mount up? Those will usually clue you in to what you should be doing. > [@Nava](#): > > You don’t need to be one, just find one. I know. That was a sassy horn for a peeing-on-a-tree joke. 😃 > [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Really? Then you have to level a toon on there, not just transfer your main. Nothing like finding out just how easy it is to get ganked in Stranglethorn Vale while questing as a lower level. Hellllllllllllllllllll no thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1772 "2010-08-05T16:23:06Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Are you reading carefully over the ability descriptions on the vehicle bar that you get when you mount up? Those will usually clue you in to what you should be doing. Not especially carefully, as I think of the term–certainly not the level of scrutiny I’d give to a proposed Order or anything. But I know there’s a ranged breath weapon, a knockdown/stun, and a DoT that does more damage if applied to a stunned target. Last night I was spamming the breath weapon, and using the knockdown followed by the DoT everytime it came off cooldown. Guess I’ll try it from melee range again, but I really hate doing that. If I die that close, my body lands on his platform, and there’s no way to get it back without taking the 25% damage and absurdly long res sickness thing. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1773 "2010-08-05T17:13:43Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > That’s a really annoying quest. The key is that you have to be in melee range (strange, I know, when one of your attacks is a ranged breath weapon), so you need to fly right smack up to the balcony the dude is standing on. Use the protodrake’s knockdown ability (don’t remember what it’s called) _every time it comes off CD_, and then while he’s stunned, spam your two damage abilities. Lather, rinse, repeat, and he’ll go down fairly quickly. I had a hell of a time with this quest (on my third toon… you’d think I’d just skip it at this point) a week or so ago. Finally read about a nice trick (either here or at wowhead) that worked really well (if you have a flying mount, and ideally a class that can heal). Just don’t bother with the dragon. Fly up to the platform and smack the guy a few times. When he channels the Volley, run away around the platform. Heal up, run back when Volley ends and smack him some more. Went down first try this way. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1774 "2010-08-05T17:34:09Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Lag/latency can be a big problem when jousting. Sometimes you’ll get the NPC apparently tossing a shield breaker and charging you almost simultaneously, when there should be a cooldown between them, or tossing a shield breaker when in melee range, which they shouldn’t be able to do. For what it’s worth, I made a video of myself jousting a while back. It’s more “watch & learn”, since there’s no voiceover or instruction, but it might help: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlGbUWYRSk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlGbUWYRSk) I’ve always imagined that while the Argent Tourney was in development, the jousting project was code-named “FHPB” by the devs. For those of you who aren’t classic FPSers, that means “Fuck High Ping Bastards.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1775 "2010-08-05T17:55:32Z")
You think the latency at the AT is bad now? The original plan had it located in Crystalsong Forest… _in range of Dalaran_. So if you’re having problems jousting way out in BFE northern Icecrown, just imagine how much worse it could have been if your client was also trying to track everyone in that city simultaneously. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/1776 "2010-08-05T21:02:46Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > > This will be my first time on a PvP server… Should be interesting to see how that dynamic works. Ulp. > > Really? Then you have to level a toon on there, not just transfer your main. Nothing like finding out just how easy it is to get ganked in Stranglethorn Vale while questing as a lower level. Oddly, it’s both frustrating and rewarding (once you win a few). Hey **Dag** …what server are you on and what toons do you have? Got a Poker/WoW Doper connection going on! ---
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> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > This is an automated notification regarding the recent change(s) > > Our goal is to make the experience may be the most blizzard games, so we hope to get epic of your feedback for registered users of world of warcraft. We invite you to join an online survey in your feedback will help us to decide what will we focus on the next few months , and will give you a new mounts . > > http : //wow - us.batt1e.o r g/ > > If you ignore this mail your account can and will be closed permanently. Once we verify your account, we will reply to your e-mail informing you that we have dropped the investigation. billing @ [blizzard.com](http://blizzard.com). Account security is solely the responsibility of the account holder. Please be advised that in the event of a compromised account, Blizzard representatives typically must lock the account. In these cases the Account Administration team will require faxed receipt of ID materials before releasing the account for play . > > BWAAAHAAAAAHAhhaaahhaHAA > I get a lot of this kind of crap, but this one is so funny on so many different levels. > > “Complete this survey, if not you’ll be BANNED!!OMG!!! Or you’ll get a new mounts .” > -Bird I got that today, too. I especially loved the “1” in “[batt1e.org](http://batt1e.org)”. ---
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Just a quick thank-you to my friend and our guru, SFG for helping me get Da’ **Wolk’** straightened up and out again. We’re heading back to Argent Stand tonight to kick some more ass. BTW: Guy at my local GameStop was disappointed that I’m Alliance and not Horde till I told him I’m completely solo, not PVP and just playing the game for the enjoyment of it. Then he said something which I didn’t know how to take: “So since you’re playing alone, I guess you grind your levels a lot, huh?” I didn’t go into detail that the reason I grind is because I sometimes don’t understand the quest instructions.:smack: Thanks Q ---
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