# New Year's Feud

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517 "2024-01-02T20:40:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/61 "2024-01-09T17:46:08Z")

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Issue on #3  
Any extra points for actually being correct? It became official in 45BC and I don’t feel we should be punished with fewer points because the most answered response is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/62 "2024-01-09T17:56:18Z")

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I’m sorry, no, that’s not how it works. I see now it was a really bad question. Plus… well, the boilerplate rules have morphed over the years, but they used to say Googling is perfectly ok. Everybody had the opportunity to do that.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/63 "2024-01-09T18:01:36Z")

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And the Professor’s in the Penultimate place! Doesn’t matter, the feuds are fun anyway.

Thanks bunches, Rebo!

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/64 "2024-01-09T18:02:52Z")

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Well - I didn’t totally tank it. Thank you for running it, @Rebo!

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/65 "2024-01-09T18:09:57Z")

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☹  
I blame being english.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/66 "2024-01-09T18:16:47Z")

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#9 on the board, #1 in your hearts.

Thanks for the feud, Rebo.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/67 "2024-01-09T18:25:26Z")

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Thanks! Tied for 12th place!

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/68 "2024-01-09T18:26:32Z")

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Great feud, Rebo, thanks!

I guess the one thing I might appeal on is that for the “within 100 years” question, you might score each person according to who they were within 100 years of - so you might have four people, Alice says 1900, Bob 1600, Carla 1550, David 1470: Alice would get 1, Bob and David 2 each, and Carla 3 (overlapping Bob and David, though they don’t overlap each other). But I suspect that wouldn’t change much in the final accounting, and be a bit complex to calculate.

(Red beans and rice! What was I thinking?)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/69 "2024-01-09T18:28:50Z")

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Top 10!! Woot!

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/70 "2024-01-09T18:49:38Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Issue on #3  
> Any extra points for actually being correct? It became official in 45BC and I don’t feel we should be punished with fewer points because the most answered response is wrong.

It’s a bit more complicated then that though. Two of us picked 1580. Which is also correct, from a certain point of view.

Numa Pompilius made January the first month of the year in the Roman calendar around 800 years BCE. It’s not exactly clear when January 1 became New Year’s, but evidence points that it was somewhere in the second century BCE.

Then the Julian calendar came along in 46 BCE, kept the January 1 date (which would make January 1, 45 BCE the first NYD in the Julian calendar), and all was good. And since the Julian calendar was adopted pretty much all over the empire, it stuck.

Until the fall of Rome. And then everyone started shifting dates around because they wanted things to closer associate with their cultural and religious traditions, and also the Julian calendar was missing a couple months and didn’t understand leap years so even if January 1 was NYD, it wasn’t typically the same astronomical day each year and even if it was NYD could be different in different cultures.

Until 1582, when Pope Gregory XIII said nuts to it all and created a new calendar which officially restored NYD back to January 1. Oh, and it was the same every year.

However, England and the American colonies held out and were still celebrating NYD on March 25 (coinciding with the Feast of the Annunciation and being roughly around the vernal equinox) until 1752 when they adopted the Gregorian calendar fully.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/71 "2024-01-09T19:42:26Z")

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Thanks for running this again, Rebo!

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/72 "2024-01-09T19:44:36Z")

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Y’all are welcome! I apologize again for the bad question.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/73 "2024-01-09T19:54:19Z")

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I tied with you. At least twelfth place is more than halfway up, I thought I’d do better though.

And **Rebo** , thanks so much for the Feud, I’d been missing them. I know that one answer was iffy, but it must be hard coming up with good questions.

I’d send you cookies if I knew your address! 😃

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/74 "2024-01-09T21:20:06Z")

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Thanks Rebo for running these! They’re a lot of fun, even though I never do too well, but that’s on me and not you.

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/75 "2024-01-10T02:43:06Z")

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Woo hoo! I get a new set of steak knives!

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/76 "2024-01-10T02:53:50Z")

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Thank you, Rebo! I always enjoy these, and look forward to getting to play.

I think this was the third time I’ve won a Feud. Woohoo!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/77 "2024-01-10T04:29:49Z")

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I enjoy the Feuds as well. I just wish it were easier to get 50 responses…

Thanks Rebo, your efforts are appreciated!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/78 "2024-01-10T12:08:28Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I think this was the third time I’ve won a Feud.

I’m happy with my solid 23rd place, better than I usually do. Thanks @Rebo

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/79 "2024-01-10T15:36:12Z")

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Woohoo fourth place! I came in third place once, but I’m usually _much_ further down the list.

The key is guessing what _other_ people think of first, because my first choice can be woefully out of date.

I almost said Guy Lombardo for the New Year’s Eve host, but came to my senses and picked somebody who died more recently 🙂

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-years-feud/995517/80 "2024-01-10T15:41:14Z")

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> [@Bayaker](#):
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> Woohoo fourth place!

I saw you and thought it was me for a second. ☹

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