# New York Dopefest **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 25, 2001, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100 "2001-06-25T18:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/61 "2001-07-02T02:47:59Z")
I’m’ fairly new… but I’m very cute! Am I welcome? ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/62 "2001-07-02T05:33:35Z")
well, bugger all this for a lark. I’m getting my cast off that day… raise a glass for me, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/63 "2001-07-02T11:14:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ukulele Ike \* > Okay, Thursday the fifth I’ll be shampooing my rug in the afternoon…entertaining guests that night! Do you always wash your hair before entertaining guests? ;o) I’d love to come along and hang out with y’all, but I’m afraid I have other things I need to attend to. =o/ ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/64 "2001-07-02T13:23:29Z")
As anyone called Mendy’s and alerted them to the possiblility of 12 to 18 Dopers descending on them the day after the 4th? Someone should, you know. ---
**Author:** ![vix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a88e4f/32.png) [@vix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vix)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/65 "2001-07-02T13:31:34Z")
Add me to the count, please. ---
**Author:** ![Pucette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/278dde/32.png) [@Pucette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucette)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/66 "2001-07-02T13:49:19Z")
I won’t be able to make it after all… ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/67 "2001-07-02T14:50:31Z")
I’ll make the call, if no one posts by 5:00 PM saying they already did it. Don’t want to duplicate efforts, of course. ---
**Author:** ![delphica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@delphica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/delphica)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/68 "2001-07-02T14:58:41Z")
We (collectively) are saddened by the unavailibility of **Ike** , **andygirl** , and **Pucette** , but delighted by the additions of **vix** and **friedo**. **NotWithoutRage** , newbies are always welcome. We wouldn’t want you to be NotWithoutDinner. Ha. Ok, so it’s Monday morning, cut me some slack. This brings our list to: Attending: Manhattan, Magdalene, Capn’Crude, Sua, OxyMoron, cmkeller, zev, Geobabe, Biggirl, Lux Fiat, GilaB, choosybeggar, vix, friedo, and NotWithoutRage. (total: 16 people) Maybe: Grok, lurkernomore, TruePisces, Maeglin ---
**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/69 "2001-07-02T15:18:59Z")
Add one more to your list - I’m planning on unveiling The Boy. He’ll be joining us after he gets off work at 7. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/70 "2001-07-02T15:32:17Z")
And I may be bringing Littleboy and Littlegirl and/or Houseman. Beerchick may show up (she’s registered, I don’t know why she can’t post these things herself!). My son _hates_ it when I call him “little boy”. ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/71 "2001-07-02T22:20:38Z")
Um, I can’t find a time anywhere… When are we meeting? Should I carry a rose? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/72 "2001-07-02T23:23:10Z")
I believe someone mentioned 6:30. I’ll be there just as soon as the LIRR can get me there. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/73 "2001-07-02T23:23:19Z")
Good point. I didn’t call them yet, so let’s settle that issue. 6:30 PM? Any objections? Chaim Mattis Keller ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/74 "2001-07-03T03:19:42Z")
I used to work in a medical supply place run by Orthodox Jews. Whenever there was a wedding or a birth we used to get fed but good. There was this one dish and I wish to know the name of it before I get to the restaurant, so help me here. It was sausage-like although you didn’t eat the casing. Inside it was red (tomatoes sauce, I think). I believe it the innards were vegitable and beef. When I asked what it was made of my boss would always say, “You don’t wanna know. Just eat it and enjoy.” It tasted like pasteles, if that helps. Alls I know is, it was yummy. BTW, I know only the rudiments of kosher law. I’m not gonna get kicked out if I make a faux pas, will I? ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/75 "2001-07-03T03:24:22Z")
I’ll probably be there around 7. 6:30’s a bit early for a Jersey girl to get into the city. ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/76 "2001-07-03T04:29:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\* BTW, I know only the rudiments of kosher law. I’m not gonna get kicked out if I make a faux pas, will I? \*\* Nah, don’t worry about it. Just don’t ask for ham, lobster or a cheeseburger and you’ll be OK. Anything else, the waiters will politely inform you that what you’re looking for is unavailable. Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/77 "2001-07-03T12:29:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > **It was sausage-like although you didn’t eat the casing. Inside it was red (tomatoes sauce, I think). I believe it the innards were vegitable and beef. When I asked what it was made of my boss would always say, “You don’t wanna know. Just eat it and enjoy.” It tasted like pasteles, if that helps.** Stuffed derma? But that’s not veggies and tomatoes and beef…stuffed cabbage or peppers? ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/78 "2001-07-03T19:19:32Z")
Okay, I made the reservations under the “Keller” name for 6:30 Thursday evening July 5. That’s Mendy’s, 61 East 34 Street in Manhattan. Biggirl: > [@](#): > > It was sausage-like although you didn’t eat the casing. Inside it was red (tomatoes sauce, I think). I believe it the innards were vegitable and beef. When I asked what it was made of my boss would always say, “You don’t wanna know. Just eat it and enjoy.” It tasted like pasteles, if that helps. I don’t know what pasteles taste like, but it sounds to me like you’re describing kishka, or stuffed derma. The insides of the kishka I’m familiar with are not red but orange, from the carrots and (sometimes) the beef fat in the mixture. Chaim Mattis Keller ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2001, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/79 "2001-07-03T19:41:47Z")
Looks like **DrMatrix** and I’ll be able to make it. Here’s a map: [**Mendy’s Restaurant**](http://newyork.citysearch.com/map?mode=geo&lat=407473&lon=-739810&id=7121520&fid=2) ---
**Author:** ![GilaB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GilaB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GilaB)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2001, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100/80 "2001-07-04T02:30:14Z")
[hijack] > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cmkeller \* > > Biggirl: > > > [@](#): > > > > It was sausage-like although you didn’t eat the casing. Inside it was red (tomatoes sauce, I think). I believe it the innards were vegitable and beef. When I asked what it was made of my boss would always say, “You don’t wanna know. Just eat it and enjoy.” It tasted like pasteles, if that helps. > > I don’t know what pasteles taste like, but it sounds to me like you’re describing kishka, or stuffed derma. The insides of the kishka I’m familiar with are not red but orange, from the carrots and (sometimes) the beef fat in the mixture. > > Chaim Mattis Keller \*\* Kishka is what I thought of also. It’s usually not cooked on its own (I don’t think so, anyway - I don’t like the stuff myself). Mostly it gets stuck in chulent (Ashkenazi Jewish delicacy - potatoes, beans, barley, short ribs, and a whole assortment of weird ingredients (everybody has their own recipe - mine involves coffee) cooked in a crockpot for about 24 hours) and is then served either in the chulent or on its own. I don’t know if you can get that there, though. [/hijack] 6:30 sounds great. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-dopefest/70100.md?page=5)