# New York governor quashes Manhattan congestion pricing project

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 6, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-governor-quashes-manhattan-congestion-pricing-project/1002541 "2024-06-06T07:01:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-governor-quashes-manhattan-congestion-pricing-project/1002541/42 "2024-06-16T16:52:57Z")

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> [@jjakucyk](#):
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> > [@Spiderman](#):
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> > NYPD has 36,000 cops; the majority of them don’t work in Lower Manhattan
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> That doesn’t mean they don’t make up a disproportionately large number of automobile commuters in Manhattan.

36,000 / 3 shifts = 12,000 / 5 boroughs (& only ½ of Manhattan); let’s say 2000; not all of them drive & some carpool so let’s say 1200 cars, going to multiple precincts in different parts of lower Manhattan. The city streets can handle that volume; I hardly think that’s a disproportionately large number of automobiles in NYC.

> [@jjakucyk](#):
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> > [@Spiderman](#):
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> > Transit service is good if you’re a 9-5er; not as much if you’re FDNY/NYPD working second or third shift. Live on the Island & get a late call on second & you’re not taking LIRR home until after sunrise tomorrow.
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> Sorry not sorry I guess. Also the congestion charge is reduced by 75% during off-peak hours.

Then why do you need a congestion charge at night if it’s not so congested & there’s no public transit? That just shows this is a money grab.

> [@jjakucyk](#):
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> > Some percentage of the people are going _thru_ Manhattan, pushing them out of Manhattan will only serve to cause more delays/polluted air in the outer boroughs.
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> Manhattan is probably the last place in the entire country anyone should be trying to drive through, especially if it’s just to avoid other tolls.

Are you offering up the $18/trip in tolls to avoid Manhattan?

> [@jjakucyk](#):
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> The money was already earmarked to the MTA to improve transit service, which would include helping those non 9-5ers.

& if the MTA was to clean up their own corruption, waste, & excessive costs they’d have the vast, vast majority if not more than the $1 billion this was required to raise w/o _any_ new tolls…$690 lost to turnstyle jumpers alone last year!

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