# New York Post Sinks To New Low **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 18, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078 "2013-04-18T22:47:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/1 "2013-04-18T22:47:04Z")
Did you think these bottom-feeders couldn’t outdo their performance so far, with the bogus 12-death count and the “suspiciously running away from the blast while Ay-rab” story? [Think again](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/ny-post-boston-suspects-bag-men-front-page_n_3109052.html)… > [@](#): > > The New York Post once again found itself in trouble after it published front-page photos of two men on Thursday who it said were being searched for in connection with the Boston bombings. The problem? They were completely innocent. > > The Post had already been intensely criticized for both saying that many more people had died in the attacks than turned out to be true, and for pointing the finger at a Saudi man who turned out to have nothing to do with them. > > “BAG MEN: Feds seek these two pictured at Boston Marathon,” the Post’s front page headline blared. A clear photo of two men could be seen underneath. The Post’s story said that the pictures are being circulated by investigators “in an attempt to identify the individuals highlighted therein.”… Man, I hope the lawyers pick their bones clean… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/2 "2013-04-19T04:19:24Z")
Was the picture being circulated by investigators or not? I can’t tell from the HuffPo. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/3 "2013-04-19T06:01:41Z")
The Headline at Gawker: [Is the New York Post Edited by a Bigoted Drunk Who Fucks Pigs?](http://gawker.com/5994999/is-the-new-york-post-edited-by-a-bigoted-drunk-who-fucks-pigs) > [@](#): > > Sources have also suggested that Col Allan may drink to excess, but we have no direct knowledge that he is an alcoholic, or that he was drunk at any time that he was guiding the Post through its various blunders in the marathon coverage. Col Allan may have been too drunk to recognize the mistakes that the Post was making—say, to see that it was publishing a front-page photo of young man carrying a royal-blue duffel bag when the authorities were saying the bombs had been in black bags. That is a mistake that a drunk person could conceivably have made, but we do not know that Col Allan was drunk when the Post made it. > > The Post had previously identified an innocent Saudi as a suspect before it decided to put this brown-skinned teenager on the front page. The back-to-back focus on innocent people of non-European ancestry could imply that the Post is systematically hostile to nonwhite people, and that the paper’s editors are so wedded to the notion that all Muslims are terrorists that they literally do not care which Muslim or “Muslim-looking” person they happen to be targeting on any particular day. We are not saying that Col Allan, motivated by bigotry, is intentionally trying to use the Post to stir up hostility against Muslims. We do not know that Col Allan is a racist. The evidence may suggest that he is a racist, but we are not saying that Col Allan is a racist. Ah well, I’m sure it’s all in good fun. Or perhaps not: [“A teenager said he is scared to go outside after he was portrayed on the Internet and on the front page of the New York Post as connected to the deadly Boston Marathon bombings.”](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/teen-stunned-at-portrayal-as-boston-bomb-suspect.php?ref=fpb) I gotta agree with that teen. Oh, and let’s not forget the time The New York Post falsely accused that NY hotel maid of prostitution: [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/new-york-post-libel-suit-part-2/2011/07/06/gIQAP4Js0H\_blog.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/new-york-post-libel-suit-part-2/2011/07/06/gIQAP4Js0H_blog.html) NY Post settles, subjects maid to confidentiality requirement: > **[Dominique Strauss Kahn accuser to ink multi-million-dollar settlement in sex...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2012/12/09/dominique-strauss-kahn-accuser-to-ink-multi-million-dollar-settlement-in-sex-assault-civil-case/)** > > The hotel maid who claims she was sexually assaulted by would-be French president Dominique Strauss Kahn is poised to ink a multi-million settlement Monday to end her civil suit against the randy E… ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/4 "2013-04-19T06:05:40Z")
I bet the New York Post also calls it “meth” too, don’t they? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/5 "2013-04-19T06:19:25Z")
\*\*New York Post Sinks To New Low \*\* You know, you say that so much it’s lost all meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/6 "2013-04-19T06:20:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Was the picture being circulated by investigators or not? I can’t tell from the HuffPo. Let’s take a look at the New York Post’s dissembling on the topic: We stand by our story. The image was emailed to law enforcement agencies yesterday afternoon seeking information about these men, as our story reported. We did not identify them as suspects. Get it? The image was emailed _to_ law enforcement. That’s all they got. And of course, “We did not identify them as suspects” doesn’t quite match up with them plastering those pics on their front page. Gawker: It does seem clear, based on the flow of images and facts through Internet and the media yesterday, that the New York Post found itself sewed to the far end of an informational Human Centipede—evidently beginning with a crowd photo published on Deadspin, passing through Reddit and 4chan and Reddit and Reddit, being passed on to the investigators actively working the Boston case, then trickling through gossip-mongering New York law-enforcement officials, till it flowed over Col Allan’s taste buds. Look I’m not saying that the New York Post is run by brainless weasels. I do not know that. I am not qualified to deliver medical opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/7 "2013-04-19T11:22:41Z")
Well, it turns out they are not so innocent after all. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/8 "2013-04-19T11:23:39Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Let’s take a look at the New York Post’s dissembling on the topic: We stand by our story. The image was emailed to law enforcement agencies yesterday afternoon seeking information about these men, as our story reported. We did not identify them as suspects. Get it?. They’re basically admitting that this is about as good as their journalism gets. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/9 "2013-04-19T11:34:54Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Well, it turns out they are not so innocent after all. What? The two guys shown on the front page of the Post are NOT the same two guys identified as suspects. They are entirely different people. The guys the Post had all over their front page are, indeed, innocent. Unless you are referring to the Post as being not so innocent after all, in which case I probably agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/10 "2013-04-19T13:28:27Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > What? The two guys shown on the front page of the Post are NOT the same two guys identified as suspects. They are entirely different people. The guys the Post had all over their front page are, indeed, innocent. > > Unless you are referring to the Post as being not so innocent after all, in which case I probably agree with you. Oops. My bad. You’re right of course. Too many similarities between the two. Including the white hat. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/11 "2013-04-19T13:31:24Z")
What I want to know is when will Congress take action and ban white hats? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/12 "2013-04-19T13:33:57Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > What I want to know is when will Congress take action and ban white hats? If a few innocent people have to die so I can keep my white hat, I think that’s perfectly acceptable. NO BAN!! ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/13 "2013-04-19T13:47:41Z")
You can have my white hat when you pry it off my cold, dead scalp! Why, yes, it does fit a little tight. Why do you ask? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/14 "2013-04-19T13:58:54Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > New York Post Sinks To New Low Cite? I mean, what makes this a lower low than their previous lows? Wow, I bet the Post’s lawyers will be all over you with examples of even worse lows. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/15 "2013-04-19T14:37:02Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Cite? > > I mean, what makes this a lower low than their previous lows? Wow, I bet the Post’s lawyers will be all over you with examples of even worse lows. Friend, you just made my day with that post. I haven’t laughed that long in ages! ---
**Author:** ![Deser2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Deser2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deser2)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/16 "2013-04-19T17:10:25Z")
I’m not sure how many of you are new yorkers and read the post on a regular basis but the general consensus locally at least is that the Post is about one step up (or maybe half-step, I’ll need to recheck my figures) from the National Enquirer. Anyone who reads that paper for anything other than entertainment value is an idiot. I love that newspaper but you need to take everything you read with about 12 grains of salt. I will say - they have THE BEST HEADLINES. My favorite - Headless Body found in Topless Bar. ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/17 "2013-04-19T17:37:05Z")
It’s the newspaper for people who like to read fast…or have to read slow. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/18 "2013-04-19T17:45:51Z")
The cover is one of the most irresponsible acts of journalism ever, and I hope Barhoun and Zaime sue the Post into oblivion. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/19 "2013-04-19T17:54:08Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Was the picture being circulated by investigators or not? I can’t tell from the HuffPo. That’s because so many of the critics don’t actually do any reporting of their own, such as aggregators like HuffPo or Gawker or self-appointed media critics like Jon Stewart or Rachel Maddow. It’s easy to sit on one’s fat ass and wait for reporters to supply one with material (that one doesn’t pay for) and cluck when they get it wrong. Maybe in the future, we can all be aggregators and news commenters and perhaps reported news will just fall out of the sky, like manna from heaven. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078/20 "2013-04-19T17:57:28Z")
Huh, I was going to pit my local TV news channel for doing the exact same thing (when I get out of this CE class). Wednesday evening they showed the same two men as the Post and said they were the suspects the FBI wanted to ID. This was 23 hours before the FBI actually released a photo, that with two different men. So when KPRC came on last night I expected them to apologize for their mistake and show the new one. Well, instead they said “here’s the picture again we first showed you last night at 6:00.” They ran an incorrect picture, never apologized and then lied to cover their sorry asses. Yes, I absolutely have pictures of their initial broadcast and am contacting them to ask for an explanation. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-post-sinks-to-new-low/656078.md?page=2)