# New York Primary Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 17, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461 "2016-04-17T14:40:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/81 "2016-04-20T01:37:52Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Here’s a question: will the numbers tonight give any indication of how NY will fall in the general between Clinton and Trump? Well, at the NY Times site, with both sides having about 23% of the vote counted, Trump has 60,955 (out of 94,255 cast) and Hillary has 333,633 (out of 546,197). So I’d say the Dems are having a good time. Would note that NYC is well along with their count so upstate NY could make for some changes. We shall see. ETA: Now 32% counted and Hillary has 400,000 votes, about 60%. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/82 "2016-04-20T01:38:49Z")
Green papers is tracking the districts - all but 2 have Trump over 50% (which triggers WTA of the 3 delegates) and over 40% in the other 2.This could be almost a sweep. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/83 "2016-04-20T01:39:00Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > New game, every time we read “Overton Window” we have to drink a shot … could my liver take it? > > 🙂 Seriously, I’m pretty sick of hearing about the goddamn Overton Window. Can we get a surveyor to officially declare it’s been moved so we can all get on with our lives? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/84 "2016-04-20T01:39:19Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Calling the race for Trump so early indicates that the exit polls were so overwhelmingly for him that even if the exit polls were off, he’d still win. Yes, it is not an unusual thing to happen in such an election where there is a prohibitive lead. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/85 "2016-04-20T01:40:18Z")
I’m not bitching, but puzzled. With 30% reported it’s Clinton +21 to 22. To get to “only” +4 means a pretty dang big regional split … Could be but it would be something. And per 538 the local exit polling was off by 10 in NYC. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/86 "2016-04-20T01:48:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Exit polling. I’m no fan of either, but that kind of exit polling used to be called a “skewer”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/87 "2016-04-20T01:49:18Z")
Hahaha pretty sure she’s got at least one super vote…Bill. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/88 "2016-04-20T01:52:18Z")
A.P. calls New York for Clinton with 39% reporting. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/89 "2016-04-20T01:58:45Z")
There are some areas yet to report that should go Sanders comfortably. Likely it will stay Clinton double digits (and really Sanders needed double digits the other way) but upper or lower teens is still unclear. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/90 "2016-04-20T02:13:27Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > There are some areas yet to report that should go Sanders comfortably. Likely it will stay Clinton double digits (and really Sanders needed double digits the other way) but upper or lower teens is still unclear. The [New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york) site has a little “show estimated remaining votes” button which gives an idea of what’s still outstanding. A lot of NYC votes still to come in and those are heavily favoring Clinton. She’ll come in close to +20 and I wouldn’t be surprised if she even did slightly better. > [@Chronos](#): > > They could? In what election? Good catch. I know what I meant to say (Sanders could be running as an independent instead of whining about losing as a Democrat) but put it in a terribly inaccurate way since there’s obviously no “independent primary”. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/91 "2016-04-20T02:16:02Z")
CNN has Trump with 38 delegates and Kasich 1 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/92 "2016-04-20T02:19:21Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > New game, every time we read “Overton Window” we have to drink a shot … could my liver take it? > > 🙂 Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window Overton Window The perfect crime! ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/93 "2016-04-20T02:20:04Z")
Looks like Kasich may pick up a few delegates in Syracuse and the north, west and south surrounding areas - but not east of Syracuse. Any ideas why Kasich is popular in that particular section of NY? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/94 "2016-04-20T02:22:21Z")
Clinton wants to win by 15, but even if it’s 14 or 13 pct, it won’t matter. Sanders needed to break within the 10 percent marker to make some noise. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/95 "2016-04-20T02:23:14Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Here’s a question: will the numbers tonight give any indication of how NY will fall in the general between Clinton and Trump? New York will vote for Clinton. So will CA. That’s pretty much 100%. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/96 "2016-04-20T02:25:44Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Looks like Kasich may pick up a few delegates in Syracuse and the north, west and south surrounding areas - but not east of Syracuse. Any ideas why Kasich is popular in that particular section of NY? Manhattan is going Kasich, I think. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/97 "2016-04-20T02:27:17Z")
Clinton’s currently up by 17% - does this count as a “good” win for her or under performing in her home state? Delegate math aside, and viewing New York purely as a standalone should she be satisfied with today’s result? Naturally - with Bernie needing to get around 60% of the remaining delegates in every state - this is rather devastating for him… Is there any update on what proportion of the remaining delegates he needs to overtake Hillary after today’s result? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/98 "2016-04-20T02:31:38Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Clinton’s currently up by 17% - does this count as a “good” win for her or under performing in her home state? She should be worried that except for 3 cities Sanders is beating her by a lot. NYC: All Clinton Rochester: Clinton only 51% to 49% Syracuse: Clinton 54% to 46% ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/99 "2016-04-20T02:31:56Z")
For anyone curious, Cruz lost the Bronx district, [District 15](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2016_primary/president/ny_gop.html), that he decided to [visit](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/07/ted-cruz-holds-small-bronx-event-after-cancelled-school-appearance/). The district had about 300 votes in the 2012 Republican primary. Cruz was hoping his visit would encourage at least some voters to swing his way so that he could get some delegates. He had a chance to win three delegates with only a few hundred votes. He lost, but as of now he has 25% of all the votes in District 15, which is his highest percentage out of any other district. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461/100 "2016-04-20T02:33:34Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > She should be worried that except for 3 cities Sanders is beating her by a lot. > NYC: All Clinton > Rochester: Clinton only 51% to 49% > Syracuse: Clinton 54% to 46% I would say the opposite. Sanders should be worried because he can’t beat Hillary in diverse cities. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-primary-discussion-thread/752461.md?page=6)