# New York Times hires unapologetic racist writer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086 "2018-08-04T10:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/321 "2018-08-09T19:15:52Z")
Note the replies to here apology too. Few dopers are as controlled to not take this type of bait from the gamergate cowards. [https://twitter.com/seby1607/status/1026393258275098629](https://twitter.com/seby1607/status/1026393258275098629) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/322 "2018-08-09T19:19:32Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Your dignity is no more important than mine. > > We should strive for a society where we do not have to choose between the two. Yes, yes, we do. But I will not be discouraged or driven away from that goal because someone was rude. Sure I have male cis-het Western Civ higher-educated privilege. Hell yeah I do. In this context, “privilege” means the sometimes unonscious presumption that The World As I Experience It is THE true standard of reality — and I need to account for it when dealing with those who do not. That does not harm me and it keeps me humble. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/323 "2018-08-09T19:24:26Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Well, maybe that’s accurate. Why do you care if some person is making fun of white people? Does it affect your life? Does it reinforce the oppressive hold POC have on white people? Do you think other people hear that and think “Yeah! I’m gonna keep whitey from this job that I hire for?” Any attack on dignity concerns me. I am bothered by some attacks more than others. The notion that it is OK to attack whites because they can afford it is not one I share. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/324 "2018-08-09T19:27:10Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Any attack on dignity concerns me. I am bothered by some attacks more than others. The notion that it is OK to attack whites because they can afford it is not one I share. When someone attacks white people with racial language, you consider that an attack on your dignity? Why \*\*don’t \*\*you share that notion? Who is harmed? White people? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/325 "2018-08-09T19:32:49Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > I empathize with the idea that some people do not have the same access to be heard as I am and that sometimes that can result in bursts of anger and frustration. > > And in the case of here I actually went and looked at all of the misogynistic bullshit she was getting even before her first tweet. So if black people are mean to a white person, can they be racist too? > [@](#): > > Funny that whole lecture then you tell me how I should feel, splaining to me how I am being oppressed. Some people need the splainin’ Its that or just buy more lube. Maybe the post coital cuddles make you feel better about yourself. > [@](#): > > Some of us just don’t take it personally when oppressed groups aren’t silenced into polite obedience. So which oppressed group is being silenced into polite obedience? Are we still talking about Sarah Jeong? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/326 "2018-08-09T19:35:35Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Yes, yes, we do. > > But I will not be discouraged or driven away from that goal because someone was rude. > > Sure I have male cis-het Western Civ higher-educated privilege. Hell yeah I do. In this context, “privilege” means the sometimes unonscious presumption that The World As I Experience It is THE true standard of reality — and I need to account for it when dealing with those who do not. That does not harm me and it keeps me humble. Rude? # cancel white people That seems more than rude. It would get me banned from this site. But I could still get a job at the New York Times. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/327 "2018-08-09T19:37:03Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Any attack on dignity concerns me. I am bothered by some attacks more than others. The notion that it is OK to attack whites because they can afford it is not one I share. May I suggest that if you want to be an ally in that cause you help with the overarching problem with male culture that extends past racial boundaries where men who stand up to sexism or racism are debased as being fags or pussies etc… Bullying by cowards who fear equality is the problem here and is part of the reason that it is hard to battle sexism and racism from within. When I see outbursts like this author’s in my family or friends I use it as an opportunity to start a conversation. Either to clarify or to reach mutual understanding. I have no problem with taking that social cost, but if anything results in attacks to my ‘dignity’ it is people trying to keep me in line with the status quo. I would feel defeated if I said nothing, but it would be nice to have some support in this goal. Throwing Anti-LGBT rape humor my direction is not helpful. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/328 "2018-08-09T19:41:32Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > So if black people are mean to a white person, can they be racist too? > > Some people need the splainin’ Its that or just buy more lube. Maybe the post coital cuddles make you feel better about yourself. > > So which oppressed group is being silenced into polite obedience? Are we still talking about Sarah Jeong? Again with the homophobic rape metaphors… I retract my previous post. You sir are an asshole and a coward. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/329 "2018-08-09T19:53:22Z")
" > [@rat\_avatar](#): > > Damuri Ajashi: > Care to address why both the > > Paper’s statement > > [https://twitter.com/NYTimesPR/status/1025048766825549830](https://twitter.com/NYTimesPR/status/1025048766825549830) > > And her apology > > [https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/1025049961472253957](https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/1025049961472253957) > > Do not match my above claims? Because they’re grossly inadequate. You cannot say “hey someone was racist to me last week so rather than respond to them and call out their racism. I’m going to tweet “#cancel white people”” How do you know that those horrible racist tweets directed at her were not the result of some attack on the dignity of the “basement dwelling white fatty with only 4 people willing to accept his friend invite” that directed the racist comments at her? Basically you are making up rules on the fly to make her racism ok because. You’re going to run out of lube one day’ then you’re going to get tired of bending over and holding your butt cheeks open. Then you’re going to stand up. Then you’re going to wonder why you’ve been taking it for so long when all you had to do was stand up. The shame is going to overwhelm your white liberal guilt. White liberal guilt has encased you in another form of white fragility. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/330 "2018-08-09T19:57:52Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > " > > Because they’re grossly inadequate. > > You cannot say “hey someone was racist to me last week so rather than respond to them and call out their racism. I’m going to tweet “#cancel white people”” She didn’t do that. She said that she responded to bigotry in kind, and that she was stupid to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/331 "2018-08-09T20:04:17Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > May I suggest that if you want to be an ally in that cause you help with the overarching problem with male culture that extends past racial boundaries where men who stand up to sexism or racism are debased as being fags or pussies etc… I’m pretty sure that calling for #cancelwhitepeople is not I want to do that. And where in America are men who stand up to sexism and racism called fags and pussies? Or do you mean men who stand up to perceived sexism and racism by over-sensitive SJWs? > [@](#): > > Bullying by cowards who fear equality is the problem here and is part of the reason that it is hard to battle sexism and racism from within. > > When I see outbursts like this author’s in my family or friends I use it as an opportunity to start a conversation. Either to clarify or to reach mutual understanding. If that’s the way they treat you, they’re not your friends dude. You’re their prison bitch. > [@](#): > > I have no problem with taking that social cost And you insist that everyone else do so as well. > [@](#): > > but if anything results in attacks to my ‘dignity’ it is people trying to keep me in line with the status quo. > > I would feel defeated if I said nothing, but it would be nice to have some support in this goal. > > Throwing Anti-LGBT rape humor my direction is not helpful. Prison rape is not anti-LGBT but it is rape even if you don’t realize it…yet. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/332 "2018-08-09T20:18:39Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > She didn’t do that. She said that she responded to bigotry in kind, and that she was stupid to do so. Yes and that stupidity should probably cost her a career in mainstream media if we are going to treat her the way we treat white people. Did she say she was wrong before or after a job at the New York Times was on the line? Can every white person who responds to her racism with more racism also be forgiven if they later apologize for it later when it comes to bite them in the ass? If I was racist against you, do you think you could say #cancel Asian people if you weren’t at least a little bit racist against Asian people? ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/333 "2018-08-09T20:22:05Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > White liberal guilt has encased you in another form of white fragility. I have no guilt, but the rape jokes make it quite clear that you are the one that is fragile. Hopefully you find your golden brick road and find your courage some day, it must be painful living the life of a fearful coward. Your homophobic rape jokes will not deter me from from trying to help my fellow American have: > [@](#): > > a Government, which to bigotry gives no sanction, to persecution no assistance – but generously affording to All liberty of conscience, and immunities of Citizenship: deeming every one, of whatever Nation, tongue, or language, equal parts of the great governmental Machine – Moses Seixas ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/334 "2018-08-09T20:26:11Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yes and that stupidity should probably cost her a career in mainstream media if we are going to treat her the way we treat white people. LOL. If only every racist white person in journalism or broadcasting was fired. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/335 "2018-08-09T20:32:32Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I’m not sure that makes much sense. Unlike being black in America, being Hispanic in America doesn’t necessarily mean you have significant experience of discrimination. How do you know this, unless you are Hispanic? > [@](#): > > Many come from a family history of privilege, even if that privilege was being in the upper class in a less wealthy country. That’s quite different from the experience of people who are racialized in America whether they like it or not. I think you are going to run into trouble if you assume **Bricker** came from a privileged background. From what I have read of his posts, he did not. My apologies to **Bricker** if this violates any boundaries. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/336 "2018-08-09T20:38:05Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > How do you know this, unless you are Hispanic? I think you are going to run into trouble if you assume **Bricker** came from a privileged background. From what I have read of his posts, he did not. > > My apologies to **Bricker** if this violates any boundaries. > > Regards, > Shodan I think you misunderstand the whole point of what privilege is. Everyone has privilege, just different types and it is not something to be ashamed of, but something to pay attention to because it acts as blinders related to the experiences others have. If you would be willing to not dismiss it or feel attacked about it you may learn how it completely relates to empathy and not some tit for tat score keeping. It would probably help you understand why your attempts to blame “black culture” aren’t any different than direct racism. Try watching this video with an open mind. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Mt-W6ae4o) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/337 "2018-08-09T20:41:26Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I’m pretty sure that calling for #cancelwhitepeople is not I want to do that. > > And where in America are men who stand up to sexism and racism called fags and pussies? > > Or do you mean men who stand up to perceived sexism and racism by over-sensitive SJWs? Right here, right now in this very thread, _you_ are making commentary that being receptive to the concerns of marginalized individuals is like receiving homosexual sex, as if there is something wrong with that. You are defending racism, and demonstrating homophobia in the process, and you wonder why some people respond to such toxic attacks without the subservient politeness that you demand? Are you really that fucking unselfaware? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/338 "2018-08-09T20:55:05Z")
> [@rat\_avatar](#): > > I have no guilt, but the rape jokes make it quite clear that you are the one that is fragile. > > Hopefully you find your golden brick road and find your courage some day, it must be painful living the life of a fearful coward. > > Your homophobic rape jokes will not deter me from from trying to help my fellow American have: I don’t think you understand what racial fragility is. You are not helping your fellow Americans. You are helping racists ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/339 "2018-08-09T20:58:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > LOL. If only every racist white person in journalism or broadcasting was fired. I can’t read minds to determine who is racist. By i can read. So when someone writes something racist, I want them treated the same regardless of whether that racism is against black, asians or whites. I can’t think of a living mainstream journalist that had kept their lon after saying something like cancel white people. Can you? Can you imagine what would happen if Rush Limbaugh said cancel black people? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/340 "2018-08-09T20:59:58Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I can’t read minds to determine who is racist. By i can read. So when someone writes something racist, I want them treated the same regardless of whether that racism is against black, asians or whites. > > I can’t think of a living mainstream journalist that had kept their lon after saying something like cancel white people. Can you? > > Can you imagine what would happen if Rush Limbaugh said cancel black people? Nothing? Limbaugh, Ingraham, O’Reilly, and many more, have been denigrating black people as a class for decades. O’Reilly expressed amazement _that black people were capable of running a restaurant_, for fuck’s sake! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086.md?page=18)