# New York Times hires unapologetic racist writer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 4, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086 "2018-08-04T10:58:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/41 "2018-08-04T17:20:44Z")

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> …“Fuck all men, they are only useful as sperm donors. I don’t give a shit about their suffering, I love to bathe in male tears.”…

Wait a tick. Does this mean they leave us alone except for random _snoos-snoos_? We don’t have to try and figure out how we screwed up? Spend our time fishing and drinking beer?

Not saying this is a good idea, or anything, just that we should listen with an open mind.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/42 "2018-08-04T17:23:05Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Here’s where I differ from a lot of progressives (I am a Democrat, by the way). The mere recitation of statistics that show differences between groups is not, in and out itself, bigotry.

She’s was pointing out the absurdity in suggesting that we are somehow obligated to entertain “all sides” of an issue. No we aren’t obligated to do that, and this idea seems to only be suggested when it comes to minorities. Hence, her rejoinder about white people.

Ironically, Sullivan is the one who says her rejoinder is racist against whites, even though in structure it mirror the idea he put forth about blacks. So the question is why does her comment make her a bigot while his does not?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/43 "2018-08-04T17:25:33Z")

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This is probably the most attention Andrew S. has gotten in ten years. He should send her some roses. Ammo. Whatever.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/44 "2018-08-04T17:34:24Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Because Sarah Jeong may be a racist and a sexist (Sullivan presents some good evidence of this)…

Point of order: Sullivan presents some (weak, imo) evidence (without context, and in order to score some sort of points, imo) that she has _said racist and/or misandrist things_.

While I realize that likely means, in Sully’s mind and to his audience, that she perforce _is_ “a racist” and “a sexist,” I would argue that one ought never ascribe to malice what may be better ascribed to ignorance, youth, anger, frustration, or any other idiocy.

IOW, “saying racist things” does not necessarily mean one is “a racist” in absence of context.  
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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/45 "2018-08-04T18:16:47Z")

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Here’s a Twitter [thread](https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1025437806775226368) full of screen caps. Jesus Christ, it’s worse than I thought. She’s posted literally hundreds of bigoted tweets. A few more gems:

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> Time to lose more followers. Breaking Bad is a regressive gimmick, a parade of overwrought white male misery

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> Every time I feel like defending white feminists they write things that make me laugh so hard I forget what it was I wanted to say

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> @noahmccormack Staffing will cost 1.2 million a year, and studies indicate cameras have no effect on crime. tl;dr white ppl are fucking dumb

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> white people are gross

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> apparently a readership of derps
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> sorry I meant defensive white men

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> the world would get by just fine with zero white ppl

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> white people feelings are like greenhouse gases, if white people have too many feels ice caps will melt and polar bears will die

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> Let’s fund a study on whether killing all the white people would make black people safer

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> oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men

Starting to see pattern here? I’m not sure how “context” could make any of these tweets okay but I’m open to being persuaded.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/46 "2018-08-04T18:24:14Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Starting to see pattern here?

I sure am, snowflake.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/47 "2018-08-04T18:27:16Z")

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> the world would get by just fine with zero white ppl

Well, yeah… Ppl in general could vanish and the planet would continue merrily spinning.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/48 "2018-08-04T18:27:24Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Here’s a Twitter [thread](https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1025437806775226368) full of screen caps. Jesus Christ, it’s worse than I thought. She’s posted literally hundreds of bigoted tweets. A few more gems:
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> Starting to see pattern here? I’m not sure how “context” could make any of these tweets okay but I’m open to being persuaded.

Of course you can’t see how context would change the nature of these tweets, as you have removed them from the context so that you are not able to see how the context would change the nature of these tweets.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/49 "2018-08-04T18:28:24Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Here’s a Twitter [thread](https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1025437806775226368) full of screen caps. Jesus Christ, it’s worse than I thought. She’s posted literally hundreds of bigoted tweets. A few more gems:
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> Starting to see pattern here? I’m not sure how “context” could make any of these tweets okay but I’m open to being persuaded.

I’m having a hard time getting offended by this. Maybe I’ll try again tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/50 "2018-08-04T18:39:44Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Starting to see pattern here? I’m not sure how “context” could make any of these tweets okay but I’m open to being persuaded.

Again, I don’t know the context of all those tweets, but a few of them I became familiar with today.

But I have a serious question: let’s say a white supremacist is yelling at a black man, all sorts of vile stuff. If the black man responds with something vile himself, do you believe the black man should be presumed to be a racist in that context?

I think that may be the heart of the matter here. And I strongly suspect that the image you see was created by white nationalists or Russian trolls, given what I’ve seen this morning.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/51 "2018-08-04T19:03:12Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Starting to see pattern here?

Very much. Particularly when it comes to “defensive white men.”

Shoe fits, my friend.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/52 "2018-08-04T19:06:21Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Here’s a Twitter [thread](https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1025437806775226368) full of screen caps. Jesus Christ, it’s worse than I thought. She’s posted literally hundreds of bigoted tweets. A few more gems:
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> Starting to see pattern here? I’m not sure how “context” could make any of these tweets okay but I’m open to being persuaded.

Silly you! You honestly think the so-called “progressive” left has weaponized language for good? Nope. It’s merely a tool to silence opposition.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/53 "2018-08-04T19:22:32Z")

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Oh, thank ghod, a voice of reason has joined in.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/54 "2018-08-04T19:56:51Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Try reading some of her tweets.
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> Top of the Google search is [NYT’s Sarah Jeong Also Sent Anti-Cop, Anti-Men Tweets | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/03/nyt-sarah-jeong-cop-men-tweets/) which has some nasty utterances. For instance
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> and

So what?

A white male doesn’t hear things like “Go back to your country.”

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/55 "2018-08-04T19:57:07Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Oh, thank ghod, a voice of reason has joined in.

I like **Miller** too.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/56 "2018-08-04T19:57:47Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Oh, thank ghod, a voice of reason has joined in.

Somebody should silence that guy!  
Just kidding.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/57 "2018-08-04T20:07:54Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Very much. Particularly when it comes to “defensive white men.”
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> Shoe fits, my friend.

Defensive white men indeed, but the purpose isn’t defense; people like Sullivan are going on offense. What defensive white men really want is to take control over discussions that involve race by asserting a false equivalency.

FWIW, I would agree that it was unwise for her to write those sorts of comments, even if it was intended to be sarcasm or irony. I wouldn’t even disagree with criticism if I believed it were coming from a more honest place, but it’s not.

Conservatives don’t want an honest discussion about race. They vote for the most racist president since Woodrow Wilson and want to then claim to be speaking out in the name of better discourse and race relations?

Fuck that. Conservatives don’t get to claim that high ground.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/58 "2018-08-04T20:13:26Z")

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Hmm. The sheer volume of her derogatory tweets about monolithic “white people” makes it clear that her claim that these were just responsive to baiters is bullshit. It’s pretty clear that it’s a habitual and established style of tweeting for her. I still think her intent is essentially satirical mockery, but I think it’s a truly awful idea to do this in a medium where it’s so hard to discern satire or sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/59 "2018-08-04T20:23:11Z")

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What medium would make it easier? Maybe its “message board” but the evidence at hand is unconvincing.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/60 "2018-08-04T20:32:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What medium would make it easier? Maybe its “message board” but the evidence at hand is unconvincing.

Well, it’s not just the medium, of course. Good satire is funny and insightful. Some of her stuff is pretty funny, but there’s some that’s seems barely distinguishable from the angry ranting of our local all-white-people-are-evil friend Huey.

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