# New York Times hires unapologetic racist writer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086 "2018-08-04T10:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/621 "2018-08-24T20:05:51Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > My mother regularly reminded me growing up that “two wrongs don’t make a right”. Funny how it’s always the racists who like to trot this little saying out when it looks like the tide is going to be turning. Almost like they’re \*afraid \*of getting the same treatment minorities got in the past. Widdul snowfwakes can dish it out but can’t take it. Like schoolyard bullies running to Matron. Fuck off with your two wrongs bullshit. Here’s [a little tune](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqWdSOVI9U) for all ya shitstains: ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/622 "2018-08-24T20:08:54Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > iswydt :d Stupid auto-lowercase… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/623 "2018-08-24T20:14:48Z")
I do find it a bit funny that these guys even try to whitesplain being white to white people. When the vast majority of white people tell you they don’t face any persecution for being white, you should figure out that the problem must be something else. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/624 "2018-08-24T20:39:34Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Stupid auto-lowercase… It’s the Man, trying to keep you down. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Epic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@Epic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/625 "2018-08-24T20:45:28Z")
this whole “it’s only racism if one group has power” stuff is communist bullshit. Racism means hating someone on account of his race/ethnicity. If you’re using a big and widespread platform like NYT to spread hatred of whites, you indeed are using power against one in writing/spreading it. A Hispanic punching an Asian guy because he’s Asian IS racist because that fist does have power. The left doesn’t believe in individuals; everyone is an just a piece of some identity group. Shame on the Failing New York Slimes for hiring this racist Jeong cunt. Intersectionality is the SJW version of the USSR’s “internationalist” foreign policy in which everyone is somehow “interconnected” or some shit. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/626 "2018-08-24T20:53:10Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > The left doesn’t believe in individuals; everyone is an just a piece of some identity group. Yeah, nothing like the Whites supremacists…:rolleyes: Fuck off, you stupid trollcunt. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/627 "2018-08-24T20:53:56Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > this whole “it’s only racism if one group has power” stuff is communist bullshit. Racism means hating someone on account of his race/ethnicity. If you’re using a big and widespread platform like NYT to spread hatred of whites, you indeed are using power against one in writing/spreading it. A Hispanic punching an Asian guy because he’s Asian IS racist because that fist does have power. > > The left doesn’t believe in individuals; everyone is an just a piece of some identity group. > > Shame on the Failing New York Slimes for hiring this racist Jeong cunt. Intersectionality is the SJW version of the USSR’s “internationalist” foreign policy in which everyone is somehow “interconnected” or some shit. Well, that post was idiocy of epic proportions, I can grant that… It also sounds like very familiar and related projection from fascist groups: > **[Rock Against Communism](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism)** > > Rock Against Communism were a series of white power concerts held in the United Kingdom in late 1970s-early 1990s which were started by the National Front. The name of these concerts is a play on Rock Against Racism, and is extremely deceptive in... > [@](#): > > Rock Against Communism were a series of white power concerts held in the United Kingdom in late 1970s-early 1990s which were started by the National Front. The name of these concerts is a play on Rock Against Racism, and is extremely deceptive in that the concerts seldom focused on the subject of communism and more often than not featured neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, racist, and violent themes.[1] > > Later, the term “rock against communism” was adopted by white power and neo-Nazi skinhead organizations as a meme in reference to racist and bigoted rock music often promoted by said organizations.[2] A lot of idiots involved with these groups and their records will peddle the ‘Cultural Marxism’ bullshit that things such as letting interracial couples marry and stopping police brutality against minorities are somehow communist plots as a half-assed justification for the bait-and-switch. ---
**Author:** ![Epic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@Epic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/628 "2018-08-24T20:57:04Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, that post was idiocy of epic proportions, I can grant that… > > It also sounds like very familiar and related projection from fascist groups: > > [Rock Against Communism - RationalWiki](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism) no doubt some have hijacked the concept of hating communism for nefarious ends. But the vast majority of communism haters hate it because it failed, and killed a lot of people, their liberty, and wealth. Economic communism flopped, and so will racial, sexual, “gender,” and other kinds of schemes to bring down the advantaged to ameliorate the jealousy of those with fewer advantages. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/629 "2018-08-24T21:10:35Z")
Aaaw, look, the troll is trying to bait outside its box, with the oh-so-casual scare quotes around gender. What a shitshow. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/630 "2018-08-24T21:12:02Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > When the vast majority of white people tell you they don’t face any persecution for being white, you should figure out that the problem must be something else. Furthermore, non-hispanic whites are a minority making up less than 50% of the population in 5 states as of 2016. The majority-minority states are Hawaii, New Mexico, California, Texas and Nevada. Texas and California are technological growth engines, as is New York City. > **[Majority minority](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority)** > > A majority-minority or minority-majority area is a term used to refer to a subdivision in which one or more racial, ethnic, and/or religious minorities (relative to the whole country's population) make up a majority of the local population. > The exact terminology used differs from place to place and language to language. In many large, contiguous countries like China, there are many autonomous regions where a minority population is the majority. These regions are generally the result of historic... In other news, Jeong trolls butthurt bigots on twitter: [INDENT] The Neglected Benefits of the Commute — looking on the bright side of things, how nice ! Don’t forget, fall is just around the corner! An Atlantic horseshoe is lucky for autumn weather A Master’s Twist on Making Ice Cream in a Plastic Bag Nothing like a cool glass of water on a warm day![/INDENT] I agree with Sarah Jeong: cool water is refreshing! ---
**Author:** ![Epic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@Epic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/631 "2018-08-24T21:17:03Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Furthermore, non-hispanic whites are a minority making up less than 50% of the population in 5 states as of 2016. while that’s not inherently a bad thing, why is that a good thing? Does it signal virtue or something? > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > The majority-minority states are Hawaii, New Mexico, California, Texas and Nevada. Texas and California are technological growth engines, as is New York City. Are you suggesting skin color composition has a causal relationship with being a “growth engine?” That’s kind of racist. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/632 "2018-08-24T21:26:32Z")
> **[A new FBI report says hate crimes — especially against Muslims — went up in 2016](https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/13/16643448/fbi-hate-crimes-2016)** > > The number of reported hate crimes increased by nearly 5 percent. > [@](#): > > The number of reported hate crimes in 2016 increased by nearly 5 percent to more than 6,100, according to a new report by the FBI. > > As has long been true, hate crimes based on race were by far the biggest category, with more than half of reported hate crime incidents motivated by race, ethnicity, or ancestry. Among those, nearly half were anti-black crimes, and nearly 10 percent were anti-Latino. About one in five were anti-white, although white people were still much less likely, when accounting for total population, to suffer a hate crime than minority groups. and… > [@](#): > > Compared to 2015, there were increases in reported hate crimes nearly across the board. Reported anti-Muslim hate crimes rose by nearly 20 percent, anti-white by 17 percent, anti-Latino by 15 percent, and anti-Jewish by 3 percent. The number of anti-black crimes remained nearly flat from 2015 to 2016. So when someone points out that racist comments about whites could have an impact, maybe we should pay attention to the increase in reported anti-white hate crimes? Excusing this because whites have been in power and have committed far worse is irrelevant to the families of those attacked. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/633 "2018-08-24T21:30:04Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > no doubt some have hijacked the concept of hating communism for nefarious ends. Well, indeed, like you… ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/634 "2018-08-24T21:33:32Z")
I’m paying attention to _all_ hate crimes. No one[sup]\*[/sup] is “excusing” them. [sup]\*Barring a few outlier assholes.[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/635 "2018-08-24T22:26:10Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Almost like they’re \*afraid \*of getting the same treatment minorities got in the past. Uhh…yeah. Except not “almost”. Did you think this was a secret, or that you provided some special insight, as opposed to stating the obvious? :dubious: > [@andros](#): > > Nonsense. Your assertion that white people are the “only ones expected to toughen up and take abusive jokes” is both denying and minimizing all of that and so, so much more. It’s actually not. Maybe I should spell it out: I am NOT saying that minorities should go back to just taking abusive talk (including jokes) without complaining. I’m saying it’s wrong to dis ANYONE for characteristics they were born with and cannot change. Further: that characteristics people were born with and cannot change do not impart collective guilt or even collective responsibility for the offenses of others who happen to share those characteristics. That’s my mission statement right there. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/636 "2018-08-24T22:31:28Z")
> [@Epic](#): > > while that’s not inherently a bad thing, why is that a good thing? Does it signal virtue or something? Snort. Take a look at the guy who resurrected this thread: he had his panties in a bunch about the US becoming a majority-minority nation. My point is that parts of the US are already that way, which is to say the parts that are the growth engines of this great nation. Normal whites shrug. As for states at the other edge of the spectrum, if you want to keep somebody in a ditch, you have to climb in a ditch with them. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/637 "2018-08-24T23:25:33Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Snort. Take a look at the guy who resurrected this thread: he had his panties in a bunch about the US becoming a majority-minority nation. My point is that parts of the US are already that way, which is to say the parts that are the growth engines of this great nation. Normal whites shrug. > > As for states at the other edge of the spectrum, if you want to keep somebody in a ditch, you have to climb in a ditch with them. If you payed attention to what I wrote, I said I didn’t care about being a minority, I cared about being a _despised_ minority if current trends in discourse continue. I’m hopeful we can nip it in the bud and stop it from becoming worse, but the excuse making and rationalizations on this thread and the left wing media are making me worry that this a genuine problem and not merely alt-right paranoia. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/638 "2018-08-24T23:34:06Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Anti-Tutsi jokes were explicitly described as being that radio station’s stock and trade. Why should white people be the only ones expected to toughen up and take abusive jokes? “Jokes” are a convenient cover for bigots. It seems to me like it’s a way of testing the waters. If they get a negative response, they can say they aren’t serious and thus avoid consequences for their vile speech. But if they were to somehow gain enough political power, we may discover to our horror that these “jokes” weren’t actually jokes. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/639 "2018-08-25T00:44:51Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > [A new FBI report says hate crimes — especially against Muslims — went up in 2016 - Vox](https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/13/16643448/fbi-hate-crimes-2016) > > and… > > So when someone points out that racist comments about whites could have an impact, maybe we should pay attention to the increase in reported anti-white hate crimes? > > Excusing this because whites have been in power and have committed far worse is irrelevant to the families of those attacked. Well, no. You didn’t provide any evidence of any link. You provided evidence of hate crimes increasing across the board, not any indication of there being a spike towards white people specifically. This can easily be accounted for by increased awareness and reporting. I also note that you gave percentages not raw numbers. So, if, for example, anti-white hate crimes are really low, then an increase may not mean all that much compared to the increases in the ones that are higher. In other words, the information you brought up is not remotely useful to me. What I can look at is my own experiences and the experiences of other white people. And, guess what? The claims of anti-white racism claims align somewhat by party and very well across people who shout “SJW” and ignore racism or other forms of bigotry. The specific examples I’ve seen of supposed anti-white racism are 99 times out of 100, not actually that, but just a misunderstanding at best, or persecution fantasies at worst. In other words, I see no indication that there is any increase in anti-white bigotry. Just in people complaining about it–who happen to be on the political side that would benefit if it were true. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/640 "2018-08-25T04:17:39Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > If you payed attention to what I wrote, I said I didn’t care about being a minority, I cared about being a _despised_ minority if current trends in discourse continue. I’m hopeful we can nip it in the bud and stop it from becoming worse, but the excuse making and rationalizations on this thread and the left wing media are making me worry that this a genuine problem and not merely alt-right paranoia. Ok fair distinction and worth saying, but whites are not a despised minority in California, Hawaii, Nevada, etc., which is why I was laughing at you. I’ve encountered some anti-white bigotry in my day\*, but it’s damn rare, rare enough to be interesting. I think you are being hysteric. - (From a black-muslim cultish organization, no longer around in the same form. Almost all American black muslims are not like that.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086.md?page=33)