# New York Times hires unapologetic racist writer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 4, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086 "2018-08-04T10:58:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/901 "2018-09-09T21:40:17Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …that doesn’t negate my fucking point. Not enough white people voted for Hillary. Not enough white people recognized the clear and present threat Trump and his regime presented to marginalized communities. 53% of white women who voted voted for Trump. That statistic alone says it all.

Perhaps in part because the liberals in the Democratic party were saying “fuck white people”

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> The Republicans control the executive and the legislature and they are doing their absolute best to take control of the judiciary. So whats your fucking point?

Perhaps try not being antagonistic to 75% of the voting population just so you can feel better about saying fuck white people?

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> And to be clear I didn’t make that happen. Social Justice Warriors didn’t make this happen. The white people (that voted) didn’t overwhelmingly vote for Trump because we made them do it. They chose to do it.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/902 "2018-09-09T21:41:06Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Do you have a link showing this as a response to racist trolling? Or did the racist trolling happen one thread and then the #cancelwhitepeople happen on at another time?
> 
> Can I start saying racist shit about black people because some black people were mean to me on the internet?

I mean if you really want to say racist stuff you can start whenever and without anyone’s permission.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/903 "2018-09-09T21:42:58Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> African enslaved Africans. Arabs enslaved Africans. Native Americans enslaved Native Americans. Humans have had a long history of being shitty towards one another. Whites have been evil, but they aren’t uniquely evil.
> 
> Considering that slavery has existed widely throughout many cultures since before the dawn of recorded history, and now it has been officially outlawed in every country on Earth, it’s worth a while to pause and reflect on this fact. That is **enormous** moral progress. Who did that? White people.

American slavers are uniquely evil for several reasons.

Slavery was already widely considered evil by the time the Civil War came around.

Almost no other slave society in history BRED slaves for the express purpose of selling off the children.

Ad white people mostly just outlawed slavery in mostly white countries. Asians did it in Asia, etc. White people do not have a monopoly on morality or evil.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/904 "2018-09-09T21:45:16Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> I mean if you really want to say racist stuff you can start whenever and without anyone’s permission.

Would it be as acceptable to liberals? Or is this your attempt at wit?

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/905 "2018-09-09T21:47:09Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Would it be as acceptable to liberals?

Seems irrelevant to me. You don’t seem to be the person who’s looking for approval from liberals.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/906 "2018-09-10T01:10:58Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Wait so the only reason I’m criticizing your bad math is because you have made fun of me in the past? :dubious:

Holy shit dude, put down the meth pipe. Was that 20 posts in a row? No one care what you think, and especially no one cares 20 posts worth.

Also, moron, my math wasn’t wrong. You just didn’t understand my simple point, because you’re stupid.

Go back and read my post, you fucking moron, and quote the bit you think I got wrong, you fucking simpleton. You won’t be able to do it because I didn’t get it wrong, you fucking nitwit.

Seriously, you fucking retard, I challenge you to quote my post where I made a mistake.

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> If you have mocked me…

Oh, I’ve mocked you. God, I’ve mocked you. It’s something I have in common with your shitty parents–we all think you’re fucking useless.

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> You mean where you make a simple math error

Cite it, you lying fool. Link to the posts, with quote, where I made a math error, you lying sack of shit.

I bet you can’t do it. I also bet you’ll continue to lie about it.

P.s., the last time I asked you to link to posts supporting your claims: 3 of the posts didn’t say what you claimed they said. One of the posts wasn’t written by the poster you claimed wrote it. Only one post was even in the ballpark of what you claimed it said, and that required a generous reading. You were 20% accurate in responding to posts, and getting to 20% required me to be kind. That’s why I call you Captain Twenty Percent. Your super power is being stupid.

Your reading of my post was in the 80%, you fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/907 "2018-09-10T01:13:38Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> I mean if you really want to say racist stuff you can start whenever and without anyone’s permission.

He already has. Check out this racist shit:

> [@Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14248):
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> if politicizing a sporting event means that blacks don’t riot all summer long then I say we support it.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/908 "2018-09-10T02:07:24Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> You don’t need Donald Trump in office to nominate justices like Gorsuch and Cavanaugh.
> 
> Kasich, Romney, and Rubio would all have done the same thing.

…was my post only about nominations of justices like Gorsuch and Cavanaugh? What the fuck are you on about?

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Perhaps in part because the liberals in the Democratic party were saying “fuck white people”

To call this statement “hyperbole” would be an insult to hyperbole. Its an outrageous fucking lie.

Its an outrageous fucking lie because “liberals in the Democratic party” were and are not saying “fuck white people”. Not even liberals on the Straight Dope Messageboard are saying “fuck white people.” A fraction of a percent of people have expressed the sentiment “fuck white people.” I would suggest there are more people complaining about people saying “fuck white people” than there are actual people saying “fuck white people.”

Its an outrageous fucking lie because people have agency. And if people have the choice of either being on the side of “liberals” or choosing to be on the side of “white supremacy” then those people made that choice themselves, they were not driven there.

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> Perhaps try not being antagonistic to 75% of the voting population just so you can feel better about saying fuck white people?

Or perhaps you could stop amplifying white supremacist propaganda. Perhaps you could stop making it sound like “liberals in the Democratic party” are running around saying “fuck white people” all the time. Because they fucking well are not.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/909 "2018-09-10T13:11:38Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You want the democrats to coddle the racists and beg them to vote for them, but that’s not going to happen, the racists will vote for the party that openly promotes their racial ideals, not the party that fights against racism.
> 
> You are trying to make this some sort of either or, in that we should either be courting the white vote, or the black vote, when we are really just courting the votes of people who want to see us all work together to make this country a better place for everyone. If you do not want this, if your goal is to make this country a worse place for certain people you don’t like, then you do not belong in the democratic party.

What the actual fuck are you on about? Please cite where I said anything that tracks with any of what you are describing here.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Well, considering that I’m not the only one that did so, maybe you should be directing your ire at the other posters who pointed out that even though they disagree with everything I say, they agree that your math is wrong.

And just as significantly, not a single person has vouched for his math being right. Most, I think, are hoping he will get the hint and stop loudly and aggressively contesting the point.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/910 "2018-09-10T13:23:32Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> You that I’m not the one that ends up looking stupid when you do this, right?

No. I don’t think so.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> This has been going on for about 25 years. Its starting to reach a tipping point. Trump is your fault.

Twitter has been around for 25 years? That’s news to me.

> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Elections are decided by very slim margins. How many votes exactly are you willing to concede to the Republicans just so you can “roll your eyes” at moderates?

This statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/911 "2018-09-10T18:31:35Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> And just as significantly, not a single person has vouched for his math being right. Most, I think, are hoping he will get the hint and stop loudly and aggressively contesting the point.

Why don’t you check it for yourself, genius?

Oh wait, I know why—it’s yet another situation where your supposed high IQ can’t help you out.

Boy, your “high IQ” seems awfully useless. Doesn’t help with math, doesn’t help with reading comprehension, doesn’t help with social skills…but you can parrot the fuck out of a podcast, can’t you?

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/912 "2018-09-11T01:20:44Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Why don’t you check it for yourself, genius?

I did. It was completely wrong. And it doesn’t require genius to see the errors. Just a modicum of numeracy and maybe a passing grade in Logic 101.

Then later you claimed that all along you were actually making a different, self-evidently true, assertion. :rolleyes:

I still don’t see anyone vouching for you. If someone does, I’ll explain again why you (and by extension, they) are wrong. Unless and until they do, I see no reason to bother.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/913 "2018-09-11T02:51:10Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I did.

No, you didn’t.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/914 "2018-09-11T06:20:12Z")

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Sam Harris and his guest, NYU professor Jonathan Haidt, discuss the Jeong case on the latest episode of Harris’s popular “Waking Up” podcast, beginning at 1:15:23:

> **[\#137 - Safe Space](https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/137-safe-space)**
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> In this episode of the Making Sense podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Jonathan Haidt about his new book The Coddling of the American Mind. They discuss the hostility to free speech that has grown more common among young adults, recent moral panics on...

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/915 "2018-09-11T14:15:16Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> I’m going to hurl verbal abuse at you.
> 
> You are a fucking coward.

Actually, it takes a certain amount of courage to go against the zeitgeist of this board.

> [@](#):
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> I wouldn’t expect you to sit there and smile.
> 
> But did that make you suddenly want to vote for Donald Trump? Join the KKK? Start harassing women online about ethics in games journalism?

Many Trump voters are genuinely “deplorable.” But not all. Some are just fools. The [13% of Trump voters](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvjke5/regretful-trump-voters-i-dont-understand-how-it-could-be-worse) who voted for Obama in 2012 made a serious mistake, but they aren’t irredeemably bad. We can win them back.

The fools who voted for Trump include [29% of Hispanic](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/11/09/hispanic-vote-election-2016-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/93540772/) voters and [8% of black voters](http://time.com/5255909/donald-trump-black-voter-support/). I don’t think they will be joining the KKK any time soon.

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> I’m not an American. I don’t live in America. This is a load of jingoistic white supremacist bullshit propaganda.

I’m sorry if I sound too parochial here. But I’m assuming most on this board are Americans, operating within an American political context. I’m totally in favor of a more integrated, cosmopolitan world and the eventual erosion of national boundaries (as a long term goal), but we don’t live in that world right now or in the forseeable future. That’s a very worthy topic of discussion, but it would derail this thread too much to go into that.

My hope is that instilling a sense of benign patriotism will generate a sense of all Americans (regardless of race) being part of the same tribe. I think this is a more effective method of achieving the goals of the Left. [Solidarity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity) is a better foundation to lay a free, equal and prosperous society than racial resentment.

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> I’m not alt right and I’m not alt left and I don’t accept this nonsense. Because it is a load of jingoistic white supremacist bullshit propaganda.

Benign patriotism is not white supremacy, in fact it’s just the opposite as I explained above.

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> At the present you have a white supremacist regime doing its fucking best to make America white again. I am focused on those problems. Because a fucked up America is a problem for the whole world. If you gave a fuck: if you had an ounce of integrity you would be focusing on the very same thing.

Even though Trump is a despicable human being, I’m going to dispute your claim that he is running a white supremacist regime. The traditional definition of that term is a system where whites dominate and control non-whites, like slavery and Jim Crow. Trump isn’t doing that.

You seem to be using the Critical Race Theory definition of that term, a political or socioeconomic system that gives a structural advantage to whites. To someone who doesn’t understand or accept the CRT framework, what you are saying appears to be over the top hysteria.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/916 "2018-09-11T14:50:52Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> Seems irrelevant to me. You don’t seem to be the person who’s looking for approval from liberals.

I am a liberal. I’m just not a SDMB brand of liberal.

This political typology chart pegs me as an Opportunity Democrat.

> **[Political Typology Reveals Deep Fissures on the Right and Left](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/political-typology-reveals-deep-fissures-on-the-right-and-left/)**
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> Nearly a year after Donald Trump was elected president, the Republican coalition is deeply divided on such major issues as immigration, America’s role in

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/917 "2018-09-11T17:41:41Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Holy shit dude, put down the meth pipe. Was that 20 posts in a row? No one care what you think, and especially no one cares 20 posts worth.

Its more like a dozen. There is just a lot of ignorance to fight.

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> Also, moron, my math wasn’t wrong. You just didn’t understand my simple point, because you’re stupid.

I think most people understood it the way I did. You are basically saying “well, that’s not what I meant when I said 2+2=5”

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> Go back and read my post, you fucking moron, and quote the bit you think I got wrong, you fucking simpleton. You won’t be able to do it because I didn’t get it wrong, you fucking nitwit.
> 
> Seriously, you fucking retard, I challenge you to quote my post where I made a mistake.
> 
> Oh, I’ve mocked you. God, I’ve mocked you. It’s something I have in common with your shitty parents–we all think you’re fucking useless.
> 
> Cite it, you lying fool. Link to the posts, with quote, where I made a math error, you lying sack of shit.
> 
> I bet you can’t do it. I also bet you’ll continue to lie about it.

Noone takes you seriously anymore. By this point they’ve all gone back and read your posts and seen that you were saying things that either displayed poor logic and analytical ability or you had a brain fart. Considering the fact that you are doubling down, you are denying the brain fart so we can only conclude your are not that smart. This is why everyone doubts that you are an actual economist. Logic is a fairly important tool in the economist’s toolkit.

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> P.s., the last time I asked you to link to posts supporting your claims: 3 of the posts didn’t say what you claimed they said. One of the posts wasn’t written by the poster you claimed wrote it. Only one post was even in the ballpark of what you claimed it said, and that required a generous reading. You were 20% accurate in responding to posts, and getting to 20% required me to be kind. That’s why I call you Captain Twenty Percent. Your super power is being stupid.
> 
> Your reading of my post was in the 80%, you fucking idiot.

Noone believes you anymore. Most people stop trying to rewrite history when other posters chime in and say “I hate what Damuri Ajashi is saying but he’s right, Evil Economist said some shit that doesn’t make sense” But not you. “You have never give up, never surrender, do or die spirit” Good luck with that.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/918 "2018-09-11T17:54:57Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> To call this statement “hyperbole” would be an insult to hyperbole. Its an outrageous fucking lie.

Well, perhaps I should have said that the fringe liberal left is saying “fuck white people” but the fringe lunatic left (including people like you) are driving the liberal agenda right now.

> [@](#):
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> Its an outrageous fucking lie because “liberals in the Democratic party” were and are not saying “fuck white people”. Not even liberals on the Straight Dope Messageboard are saying “fuck white people.” A fraction of a percent of people have expressed the sentiment “fuck white people.” I would suggest there are more people complaining about people saying “fuck white people” than there are actual people saying “fuck white people.”

And they are overrepresented in the people driving the liberal agenda right now.

> [@](#):
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> Its an outrageous fucking lie because people have agency. And if people have the choice of either being on the side of “liberals” or choosing to be on the side of “white supremacy” then those people made that choice themselves, they were not driven there.

They were absolutely driven there by the lunatic left. We’re not talking about dyed in the wool liberals voting Republican because of the lunatic left. We’re talking about the moderates who can go either way, we call them swing voters here.

Whether you like them or not, you still need to win election and constantly belittling them and calling them names has resulted in losing far more elections than we needed to lose. But you don’t really care about that because you’re not American and you only experience the secondary effects of this fucked up situation. So you don’t really need to find a reasonable solution, you can stick to your guns…from abroad.

> [@](#):
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> Or perhaps you could stop amplifying white supremacist propaganda. Perhaps you could stop making it sound like “liberals in the Democratic party” are running around saying “fuck white people” all the time. Because they fucking well are not.

Yes they are, the folks driving the liberal agenda are saying this with some degree of regularity. Do you live in America?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/919 "2018-09-11T17:58:06Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> No. I don’t think so.

You’d be wrong.

> [@](#):
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> Twitter has been around for 25 years? That’s news to me.

Critical race theory has been around for more than 25 years but it made the leap from legal theory to social theory about 25 years ago. Just a guesstimate.

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> This statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.

You roll your eyes at moderates.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/920 "2018-09-11T18:03:04Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> And just as significantly, not a single person has vouched for his math being right. Most, I think, are hoping he will get the hint and stop loudly and aggressively contesting the point.

The dumb liberals on this board generally rely on the tacit approval (or at least non-disapproval) of the largely far left population of this board.

This happened about 10 years ago AFAICT. The conservatives on this board were already losing the fight because they were wed to Bush and his war in Iraq. They had to take all sorts of ridiculous positions to justify their support. They were eventually driven from the board. Simply put the facts had a liberal bias at the time.

The facts may still have a liberal bias but without a critical mass of conservatives, the weak minded liberals could flourish here and pretend they were as smart as the other liberals.

The few remaining conservatives were either much more open minded and tolerant or they were made of shoe leather and granite.

Most of us moderates have either just left the board or been grouped together with the conservatives because we don’t follow far left liberal orthodoxy

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