# New York Times hires unapologetic racist writer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086 "2018-08-04T10:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/961 "2018-09-12T12:16:05Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > It’s not in my own words, it’s quoting him, and I couldn’t be clearer. FFS :rolleyes: Not by my eyes. This is what I’m seeing: \<\<\<\< Slacker: QUOTEBOX This is what you’re saying – blah blah – and this is why it’s wrong – blah blah. Ha ha ha, I’m so awesome and smart and you’re so stupid. EE: No, that is not what I’m saying, you idiot. I’m saying blah blah blah, and you’re wrong when you said blah blah blah. You’re dumb. \>\>\>\> That’s not something that either post provides much illumination on. He said she said. This is how it could be proven (as much as these things can be): \<\<\<\< QUOTEBOX Your assertion “(quoted statement)” is factually/mathematically incorrect because XYZ. \>\>\>\> I’m not seeing anything clear like that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/962 "2018-09-12T12:26:02Z")
Forgot to point out that yes, Slacker, you either lied about me or mischaracterized something I said. Which is it, and why are you dodging admitting it? No big deal to make such a small mistake. I’ve seen EE admit he’s wrong before, I can’t recall seeing you do it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/963 "2018-09-12T12:40:33Z")
This thread sucks. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/964 "2018-09-12T12:43:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is how it could be proven (as much as these things can be): > > \<\<\<\< > QUOTEBOX > > Your assertion “(quoted statement)” is factually/mathematically incorrect because XYZ. > \>\>\>\> > > I’m not seeing anything clear like that. You’re blind or dishonest, because that is precisely what I did, in excruciating detail. Dude! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/965 "2018-09-12T13:01:03Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > You’re blind or dishonest, because that is precisely what I did, in excruciating detail. Dude! Not by my reading. You quoted EE but then used your own words to say what he said, rather than refuting his specific assertions, and he’s saying your characterization is incorrect. And you lied about me or mischaracterized me but you’re either too egotistical or too cowardly to admit it. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/966 "2018-09-12T13:12:34Z")
Jesus, can the math topic be finished so we can go back to hating white people? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/967 "2018-09-12T13:13:50Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Jesus, can the math topic be finished so we can go back to hating white people? Best post this week, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/968 "2018-09-12T13:23:55Z")
Congrats, Andy: you sound like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, or Rudy Giuliani. Or maybe the big man himself. “The failing SlackerInc makes up all these lies and calls them ‘math’ and ‘logic’.” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/969 "2018-09-12T13:38:43Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Congrats, Andy: you sound like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, or Rudy Giuliani. Or maybe the big man himself. “The failing SlackerInc makes up all these lies and calls them ‘math’ and ‘logic’.” :smack: All I’m doing is not understanding your explanations of why EE is wrong, and challenging you for either lying or misstating something I said. I haven’t made any assertions aside from that I don’t get what you’re saying (and why) about EE, and that you said something incorrect about me. I never said you lied about anything (or were incorrect) aside from what you specifically said about me. This seems to be very difficult for you, but it doesn’t have to be. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/970 "2018-09-12T14:50:02Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Nah, I don’t think so. And you’d be wrong there too. > [@](#): > > I roll my eyes at anyone who gets angry about someone being mean to white people on twitter. Moderate or not. Not angry just disgusted. > [@](#): > > Besides, you have to spend a day in my shoes before you can judge me or criticize my opinions or actions. Nope, you are explicitly condoning racism. No shoe walking required. Your livelihood is not at stake, your life is not at stake. You are freely expressing your approval of racism in a forum where there are no real consequences either way. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/971 "2018-09-12T14:57:23Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > This thread sucks. The thread itself sucks, but there’s some gems of posts hidden in there. Check out [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21202228&postcount=934)one, where SlackerInc goes on at cringe-inducing length about why you shouldn’t use analogies with cows and dogs. Actual quote: “Cows require much more food than dogs (not to mention a different kind of food)…” The whole thing could be re-written as an episode of Fawlty Towers. My personal favorite (for obvious reasons) is [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21202535&postcount=947)one. It involves \*\*SlackerInc \*\*expressing wonderment that if you start out with unequal funding and you give everyone a fixed amount of money, you still have unequal funding: “why were you carrying on in your massively innumerate and incoherent attempt at presenting a logical proposition that “special ed black schoolchildren must receive less per capita funding than special ed white schoolchildren”? You were violating our supposed agreement, before belatedly going into high dudgeon mode because I violated it?” It’s my favorite because it involves \*\*SlackerInc \*\*making a hilariously stupid math error, in a post claiming that someone else made a math error. And it’s the same math error he’s been making since April, proving that he hasn’t learned a single thing. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/972 "2018-09-12T15:04:21Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Congrats, Andy: you sound like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, or Rudy Giuliani. Or maybe the big man himself. “The failing SlackerInc makes up all these lies and calls them ‘math’ and ‘logic’.” :smack: Just fuck already! God! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/973 "2018-09-12T15:06:40Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > First, “no one” is two words, dumbass. Yes, autocorrect makes me a dumbass frequently. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Second, and more important, I told you go go cite my supposed error. I noticed that surprising omission in your post. Wait, not “surprising”, that other phrase…entirely fucking expected. > > Let me tell you what happened: You went back, read my post for comprehension (unusual for you), realized what a tremendous fuckup you were, and now you’re trying to bluster your way forward. It’s totally working, dude, keep it up. I lay it out here. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21186110&postcount=794](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21186110&postcount=794) These are clear errors. Errors happen. But when you keep insisting you were correct then you are either trying to rewrite history to make yourself right or you actually think you were right. either way, you have no credibility and can be safely ignored. > [@](#): > > By the way, I’ve noticed at least a dozen responses from a dozen different people to your recent posts telling you that you misunderstood what was being said, that your responses had nothing to do with what was said, and that you are an idiot. I see you haven’t let that slow you down. Good—if you took the time to understand what you were responding to you wouldn’t be able to dash out a hundred posts in a row, and then we’d all miss out on your wisdom. Unrelatedly, have you talked to your doctor about adjusting your Adderall dosage? A dozen responses from a dozen different people supporting your bad logic? Really? Cite please. Heck I don’'t even need 12 cites from 12 different people. Lets start with 6 posts from 6 different people. (not cites calling me an idiot because that’s just personal insult by people who can’t come up with an argument, cites that say your logic was right). ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/974 "2018-09-12T15:18:17Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Damuri, do you think EE is getting weaselly and trying to deny what he actually claimed because it’s so embarrassing for him now that he’s realized how off he was? Or is he so confused that he believes the bullshit he’s peddling now? I go with “weaselly and desperate to avoid further humiliation”—what about you? I think that he has no real credibility with the more intelligent liberals on this board. He hasn’t has an original thought in the entire time he has been on this board, at least none that I have seen. He is one of those sub-par liberals that only survive on this board because of its insanely leftist slant. He occasionally uncovers reasonably relevant cites but he is not what I would call a thinker. He is not among the 20 or so far left liberals on this board who make compelling arguments for their position. He is among the mass of hangers on who parrot the comments of their betters. I probably wouldn’t even remember him distinctly from the rest of the weak liberals on this board except that is handle is such a shocking juxtaposition to his intellect that it was notable. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/975 "2018-09-12T15:22:27Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I think the two of you should team up. Though you’ll need to find a one-eyed man to lead you. > > Hey, you been thinking about that bet any? It’s actually about the same issue \*\*Damuri \*\*thinks he caught me out on, so it’s an easy win for you, right? In fact, from your perspective it’s not even a bet; just pick what you’d like to win (I can’t grant you self-respect or a high IQ or anything–gotta be something on the menu). I would bet you but contracts with incompetants are not enforceable. Try to get one of the adult liberals to back your bet and I’ll take it. I doubt they will because your math and logic are simply wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/976 "2018-09-12T15:28:42Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yes, autocorrect makes me a dumbass frequently. :rolleyes: You made that same exact mistake repeatedly. You’re telling me your phone autocorrects “no one” to “none”? I don’t think so. > [@](#): > > I lay it out here. > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21186110&postcount=794](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21186110&postcount=794) > > These are clear errors. I think the only error is in your understanding of what was said. You do understand that you provided the exact same numerical example that I did, while claiming it disproved me? Why don’t you try going back to my original post and tell me what you think it says (with cites), and I will tell you the specific piece that you have misunderstood. > [@](#): > > Errors happen. But when you keep insisting you were correct then you are either trying to rewrite history to make yourself right or you actually think you were right. either way, you have no credibility and can be safely ignored. Remember these words, buddy. > [@](#): > > A dozen responses from a dozen different people supporting your bad logic? Really? > > Cite please. Heck I don’'t even need 12 cites from 12 different people. Lets start with 6 posts from 6 different people. (not cites calling me an idiot because that’s just personal insult by people who can’t come up with an argument, cites that say your logic was right). That’s not what I said, dumbass. I said (paraphrasing): “you frequently misunderstand what people are saying in your conversations with them”. I did not say what you claim I said. It’s kinda funny that you misunderstood my post about how you repeatedly misunderstand people’s posts. Remember that statement you made (above) about how errors happen? YEah, that’s happening with you now. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/977 "2018-09-12T15:34:21Z")
The sexual tension in this thread could be cut with a chainsaw. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/978 "2018-09-12T15:38:22Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The sexual tension in this thread could be cut with a chainsaw. If \*\*Damuri \*\*gets a disfiguring injury because he misunderstood your post, you’re going to have to live with that, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/979 "2018-09-12T15:44:39Z")
Just for fun, here’s a recent sampling of responses to \*\*Damuri’s \*\*posts: > [@Slash1972](#): > > Please post where I say facts and science don’t matter to me. If you cannot, please rescind this statement. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > When was the last time you had your vision and hearing checked? You seem to see and hear things that just aren’t there. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …was my post only about nominations of justices like Gorsuch and Cavanaugh? What the fuck are you on about? > [@Slash1972](#): > > This statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …another outrageous fucking lie. I have not expressed the sentiment “fuck white people.” > [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > That’s not what I said, dumbass. Does anyone else see a trend? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/980 "2018-09-12T16:42:25Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Jesus, can the math topic be finished so we can go back to hating white people? IMHO it is enough to point out that the math seems to work for both, but in the case of the slacker it looks more like demonstrating that god exists thanks to modal logic. Of course Gödel never explained what specific god he demonstrated, so it was less impressive than he thought. Likewise, the Slacker (and Damuri Ajashi) truly does think that inputting those numbers demonstrates something about how funding for minorities among schools in specific districts works (Special Ed kids were not the only ones talked about in the overall discussion); on that he can be right based on the numbers he inputted, but he does lie by omission overall by disregarding factors like how federal funds are not as big as he implied and it is when local money is considered (that is, the lion share of how much money students get) that shows what others studies have found: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20927874&postcount=1483](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20927874&postcount=1483) Again, it was a half truth at best to use math to claim that minority students had almost the same funding (Special ed kids were not the only ones discussed). As pointed, that is close to the truth when comparing same educational districts, but it is a misleading statement that ignored the big picture. It was clear that the Slacker wanted earlier to claim that minorities or the poor were getting basically the same funding. Hence he was wrong, and also by insisting that federal funding was missing from the studies, that complain implied that the missing federal funding was enough to support his overall point. It was not. As it turns out, federal funding by its nature is less discriminatory when supporting students. But it is not the main funding source, again: state and local funding has the lion’s share. So in the big picture the Slacker was indeed wrong. **In the USA there are many districts that are short-changing large percentages of low-income and minority students.** And Charles Murray and their ilk are not only racists, but willful ignorants by ignoring dollar amounts that do not support their solutions. Now those are the white people one should hate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086.md?page=50)