# New York to issue letters of marque / Cuomo might have gone insane **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 4, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596 "2018-05-04T19:51:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/61 "2018-05-06T01:15:55Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > It seems off-topic for this thread about Cuomo. If you want to start a thread about it, go for it. If it seems interesting, I may join in. In a thread in which you are drawing a line between peaceful protest and risk to people’s lives, it seems exactly on topic, given how many times you have said that people may be injured or die as a result of this effort. But I shall not press it anymore, because, well, obvious reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/62 "2018-05-06T01:39:26Z")
> [@Jacquernagy](#): > > As an avid sport fisherman and boater, I am behind this 100%. I am fucking sick and tired of having the environment fucked up by polluters who have no regard for nature, no regard for the beauty of the ocean or lakes, no regard for fishing, no regard for health, no regard for anything. We have enough goddamn oil drilling rigs in this country already. Private corporations should absolutely not be allowed to rape the environment that was here before us and will be here when we’re gone (unless we destroy it first.) How do you think oil and fuel are delivered to NY and other parts of the country? t’s delivered by truck, rail, pipeline and ships. If NY doesn’t want oil rigs off shore because it poses a threat then they should shut down all their pipelines and transport modes for the same reason. It would be in line with Cuomo’s mindset to save it’s citizens from environmental harm. > [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Civil disobedience and interference with the oil operations is not the same as an act of war, neither is arresting those responsible and confiscating their vessels. > [@Jacquernagy](#): > > Mario Savio, who was a 60s radical (and I am most certainly _not_ a 60s-style radical and I am avowedly anti-Communist), said that “there’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part! You can’t even passively take part! And you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop!” And I agree with that wholeheartedly when it comes to protecting the environment. All of this is just a political rant on Cuomo’s part. NY has a very small coast line and the bravado only extends out 3 miles. We can easily go out 50 miles and still be on the continental shelf with only 200 feet to the ocean floor. This is vastly different than the mile deep drilling in the Gulf. If you check your watch it’s election time. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/63 "2018-05-06T11:40:05Z")
Boy, talk about your bait-and-switch thread title. LETTERS OF MARQUE!! That would have been something genuinely off the wall. Instead, probably feeling a little heat from Ms. Nixon, he’s encouraging a Greenpeace-style protest. A little lefty for Cuomo, of course, but like I said, he’s feeling the heat. But no letters of marque, no Cuomo insanity. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/64 "2018-05-06T11:50:40Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Lighting yourself on fire in front of the White House might accomplish that (it’s got at least as good of prospects as Cuomo’s “citizen fleet” IMHO). Still think it’s the right strategy? Please, test it out and get back to me. People protest peacefully on land all the time. There is no reason to believe it can’t be done on water. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/65 "2018-05-06T12:21:37Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Please, test it out and get back to me. > > People protest peacefully on land all the time. There is no reason to believe it can’t be done on water. And it has been. [http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm\_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:SU6rHnXE](http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:SU6rHnXE) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/66 "2018-05-06T12:41:21Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Boy, talk about your bait-and-switch thread title. > > LETTERS OF MARQUE!! That would have been something genuinely off the wall. > > Instead, probably feeling a little heat from Ms. Nixon, he’s encouraging a Greenpeace-style protest. > > A little lefty for Cuomo, of course, but like I said, he’s feeling the heat. But no letters of marque, no Cuomo insanity. Don’t feel cheated, OP did include at no charge an unrelated antifa “joke”. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/67 "2018-05-06T13:25:13Z")
Oh, I don’t feel cheated. I always enjoy an OP that says more about the author than it does about the purported subject of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/68 "2018-05-06T14:43:59Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And it has been. [http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm\_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:SU6rHnXE](http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:SU6rHnXE) Are you suggesting that was peaceful protest? That interrupted commerce and people were arrested for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/69 "2018-05-06T15:08:13Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Are you suggesting that was peaceful protest? That interrupted commerce and people were arrested for it. I’m not sure if you are joking or not, but people get arrested for peaceful protests all the time. Which is fine if they are violating the law, even the absence of violence. Seriously, are you kidding? You know what a violent protest is, right? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/70 "2018-05-06T15:15:26Z")
One that interrupts commerce and can’t have that can we? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/71 "2018-05-06T15:21:11Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > One that interrupts commerce and can’t have that can we? No, we can’t. That’s not peaceful protesting, that’s criminal activity. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/72 "2018-05-06T15:27:09Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I’m not sure if you are joking or not, but people get arrested for peaceful protests all the time. Which is fine if they are violating the law, even the absence of violence. > > Seriously, are you kidding? You know what a violent protest is, right? violence: the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy. I consider acting against another person’s freedom an act of violence. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/73 "2018-05-06T15:27:58Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > No, we can’t. That’s not peaceful protesting, that’s criminal activity. Arrest Trump, then. He called for a boycott of Macy’s. That’s inciting criminal activity. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/74 "2018-05-06T15:29:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And it has been. [http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm\_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:SU6rHnXE](http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:SU6rHnXE) It sounds like someone understood how dangerous stunts like this can be: > [@](#): > > In this instance, the risk level was too high for the vessel, it’s passengers and for the protestors. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/75 "2018-05-06T15:34:39Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Please, test it out and get back to me. … I’m not the one that thinks “If it slows down the process until Trump and his tard army are relics of history, it’s absolutely the right strategy.” Personally, I think that’s a stupid way of evaluating the wisdom of actions, but if that’s all you’re after, I suppose you might say or do just about anything to try to accomplish it. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/76 "2018-05-06T15:42:24Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > violence: the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy. > I consider acting against another person’s freedom an act of violence. So you consider the civil rights marches, as a whole, to be violent protests? Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/77 "2018-05-06T16:19:14Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I’m not the one that thinks “If it slows down the process until Trump and his tard army are relics of history, it’s absolutely the right strategy.” Personally, I think that’s a stupid way of evaluating the wisdom of actions, but if that’s all you’re after, I suppose you might say or do just about anything to try to accomplish it. Absolutely. By any means necessary. This criminal regime needs to be stopped in it’s tracks. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/78 "2018-05-06T17:13:37Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > No, we can’t. That’s not peaceful protesting, that’s criminal activity. Parades interrupt commerce. I’ve never enjoyed them, but I imagine they must throw you into a rage what with all the commerce being interrupted and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/79 "2018-05-06T17:17:16Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Absolutely. By any means necessary. This criminal regime needs to be stopped in it’s tracks. “By any means necessary”? No wonder people were upset by my Antifa joke: [http://www.bamn.com/](http://www.bamn.com/) I didn’t realize some of you were taking it personally. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/80 "2018-05-06T17:18:04Z")
The Boston Tea Party. That also interrupted commerce somewhat. Yet that’s a major event in American history (and a footnote in British history). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596.md?page=5)