# New York to issue letters of marque / Cuomo might have gone insane **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 4, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596 "2018-05-04T19:51:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/81 "2018-05-06T17:43:19Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Parades interrupt commerce. I’ve never enjoyed them, but I imagine they must throw you into a rage what with all the commerce being interrupted and stuff. I live in DC. The President or Vice President interrupts my travel fairly often, those violent bastards. And before the Trump apologists drop in with lame defenses of their assaults on me, just remember the fundamental power of government: the monopoly on the legal use of violence. That’s what those motorcades are. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/82 "2018-05-06T18:07:22Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > So you consider the civil rights marches, as a whole, to be violent protests? Jesus. I can’t respond to that without breaking the rules of the board. But you chose your name well. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/83 "2018-05-06T18:13:23Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I live in DC. The President or Vice President interrupts my travel fairly often, those violent bastards. blockades are not interruptions. They’re denial of service. If a road gets shut down for security reasons it’s posted in advance so you can navigate around it. That you don’t understand this makes it difficult to discuss anything at this point. You clearly think it’s OK if you block a boat from legally docking because you don’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/84 "2018-05-06T22:16:02Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I can’t respond to that without breaking the rules of the board. But you chose your name well. Please, whatever you need to do to explain whether you think civil disobedience is actually violent protest. I remain unclear if you’re perpetrating some silly joke, or if you are serious. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/85 "2018-05-07T14:14:13Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > blockades are not interruptions. They’re denial of service. If a road gets shut down for security reasons it’s posted in advance so you can navigate around it. > > That you don’t understand this makes it difficult to discuss anything at this point. It’s hard to understand things that aren’t true. Can’t speak for other places, but you’d apparently be surprised how routinely it happens in the DC area that the first notification you have that a route is blocked due to a parade or a notable’s motorcade is when you encounter the barricades or the motorcycle cops. > [@Magiver](#): > > I can’t respond to that without breaking the rules of the board. This makes no sense. > [@](#): > > But you chose your name well. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/86 "2018-05-07T14:32:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Trump Administration Drops Florida From Offshore Drilling Plan](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/climate/trump-florida-offshore-drilling.html) > > Remind me again where the Orange Turd-Blossom’s weekend retreat is. The same state where Rick Scott needs all the help he can get if he’s going to win a Senate seat. ---
**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/87 "2018-05-07T17:49:06Z")
Everyone is missing the big picture here. _Every last bit_ of extractable fossil fuel is going to be extracted and burned, by us or someone else. If the last petroleum reserves on the planet were off the Florida coast, oil rigs will appear and drill. The question is, what are we going to do to make the best use of fossil fuels while we still have them? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/88 "2018-05-07T17:55:10Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > This seems … crazy. I’m wondering if Cuomo is drunk, high, insane, or some combination of the three. Is it crazy that Cuomo does not want oil drilling in the waters off his state? What about States’ Rights? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/89 "2018-05-07T18:08:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Is it crazy that Cuomo does not want oil drilling in the waters off his state? No (that’s just plain old NIMBYism), but it is crazy to call for a “citizen fleet” to sail out to the rigs and “block” or “interfere” with their activities. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > What about States’ Rights? They’re fine, for the first three miles: > [@](#): > > [Most coastal states control leasing off their shorelines out to three nautical miles. At least 200 miles beyond that, the federal government owns the seabed and its mineral resources — some 1.7 billion acres’ worth.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/23/climate/trump-offshore-oil-drilling.html) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/90 "2018-05-07T18:23:28Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > **No (that’s just plain old NIMBYism)**, but it is crazy to call for a “citizen fleet” to sail out to the rigs and “block” or “interfere” with their activities. > They’re fine, for the first three miles: So is it also NIMBYism if Gov. Scott and Trump don’t want drilling off Florida? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/91 "2018-05-07T18:25:50Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So is it also NIMBYism if Gov. Scott and Trump don’t want drilling off Florida? Sure. Both Cuomo and Scott (and virtually every other coastal governor) are showcasing NIMBY attitudes when they oppose oil drilling off the coast of their states. ETA: there’s only one that I know of that’s calling for people to go out in boats and “block” or “interfere” with oil drilling though. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/92 "2018-05-07T18:29:39Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Sure. Both Cuomo and Scott (and virtually every other coastal governor) are showcasing NIMBY attitudes when they oppose oil drilling off the coast of their states. > > ETA: there’s only one that I know of that’s calling for people to go out in boats and “block” or “interfere” with oil drilling though. Of course not in Florida. It helps when the President doesn’t want an oil rig to foul _his_ beaches. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/93 "2018-05-07T18:48:22Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > LETTERS OF MARQUE!! Isn’t reprisal in there somewhere too? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/94 "2018-05-07T18:58:49Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Sure. Both Cuomo and Scott (and virtually every other coastal governor) are showcasing NIMBY attitudes when they oppose oil drilling off the coast of their states. Did you oppose the designation of Bears Ears as a national monument on the basis of NIMBYism? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/95 "2018-05-07T19:17:07Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Did you oppose the designation of Bears Ears as a national monument on the basis of NIMBYism? I thought it was an abuse of the Antiquities Act. On the same day that [Obama declared the Bears Ears monument into existence](https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/28/proclamation-establishment-bears-ears-national-monument), he did [something similar in next-door Nevada](https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/28/presidential-proclamation-establishment-gold-butte-national-monument). I’ve never really taken the time to unpack all of my motivations for focusing most of my ire on Bears Ears and not Gold Butte. Thinking about it now, I suspect it was mostly because Bears Ears was more than a million acres larger than Gold Butte, but there was probably at least some small component of my feelings that was driven by my proximity to the area (although I’m probably about equidistance from Bears Ears and Gold Butte), my visits there, and knowing nearby residents that felt significantly impacted by the declaration. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/96 "2018-05-07T19:35:49Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Sure. Both Cuomo and Scott (and virtually every other coastal governor) are showcasing NIMBY attitudes when they oppose oil drilling off the coast of their states. > > ETA: there’s only one that I know of that’s calling for people to go out in boats and “block” or “interfere” with oil drilling though. I’m sure Scott is for drilling other places, but a cite that Cuomo is for drilling off the California coast, say? If you oppose something everywhere, it isn’t NIMBYism. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/97 "2018-05-07T19:37:28Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Please, whatever you need to do to explain whether you think civil disobedience is actually violent protest. I remain unclear if you’re perpetrating some silly joke, or if you are serious. He sounds exactly like the anti-civil rights southerners 55 years ago. Selma Bridge, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/98 "2018-05-07T19:47:02Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > If you oppose something everywhere, it isn’t NIMBYism. And if it’s only something, then it isn’t BANANAism - Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/99 "2018-05-08T11:57:09Z")
Not intending to threadshit or anything, but why is this in MPSIMS? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596/100 "2018-05-08T12:58:47Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > He sounds exactly like the anti-civil rights southerners 55 years ago. Selma Bridge, anyone? Those damn violent sit-ins were really hurting the lunch counter business, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-to-issue-letters-of-marque-cuomo-might-have-gone-insane/813596.md?page=6)