# New York's First Gay High School. Necessary? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510 "2003-07-28T20:24:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/21 "2003-07-29T11:14:38Z")
\*\*NO!!!:mad: :eek: \*\* ---
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/22 "2003-07-29T11:16:53Z")
Homosexuality is wrong. Sorry. If people want to live this way, they will have to face the consequences. Even if they have urges to like men if they are men, (same for women), they don’t have to act on them. ---
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/23 "2003-07-29T11:18:12Z")
Sorry to anyone out there who is gay. My views are a bit strong. I don’t discriminate against gays and I treat them as I would treat anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/24 "2003-07-29T12:33:40Z")
TVGuy said, “A “gay only” school is, to me, just a reaction to the seeming fact that the public schools can’t deal with hate and intolerance in the regular schools.” But they CAN’T deal with it in most schools. There are all kinds of regulations and laws, and these kids are being humiliated, beaten, teased. These kids are practically shunned. The social skills learned in high school pass these kids by because no one wants to associate with the fag. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/25 "2003-07-29T12:36:39Z")
Kputt, who died and made you boss? ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/26 "2003-07-29T12:44:28Z")
What did we step back in time? I thought we were over segregation? NO they should NOT have their own school. You have to draw the line somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/27 "2003-07-29T12:44:54Z")
Hey… I never said I was boss. I was it was wrong to be gay. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/28 "2003-07-29T12:54:01Z")
ALso, they asked for my opinion. I gave it. Now, I said I wasn’t discriminating against them. and National coming out day should be canceled. HOMOSExuality is a disorder. It’s not normal. I’m sorry to hurt anyones feelings, but I have disorders and they don’t have a national day for those. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/29 "2003-07-29T12:55:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kputt \* > \*\*Hey… I never said I was boss. I was it was wrong to be gay. Sorry. \*\* Bull. Your _opinion_ is that it’s wrong to be gay. But that is all it is: opinion. However, you are not in a position to say that it’s _actually_ wrong to be gay. Unless, as has been said, you’re “the boss”. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/30 "2003-07-29T12:56:59Z")
I think the school mascot should be the \*Gamecocks \*. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/31 "2003-07-29T12:57:44Z")
Oh, by the way, I don’t like the idea of an all-gay school. That’s just running away from the problem. Gay rights have come on leaps and bounds in the past 30+ years. Seems like a long time, but it isn’t really. Don’t retreat now. By the way, **kputt** , I posted my last post before I read yours - now I see you’re saying it is just your opinion. Fair enough. Though I disagree strongly. ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/32 "2003-07-29T13:06:05Z")
I can’t see the article yet, the system is down…but I will make a few comments: While this is tragic of itself, it is only the surface of the problem. The main problem is that in an attempt to try and make the gay issues main stream and normal, you have to weaken the Constitution of this country. You have to rule Out morality as a basis for law…once you do that, you break down the standards On which our government is founded…do that often enough and the country will Be brought to the brink of anarchy….it will not fall, but it will come close… People fear the nation being destroyed from without…which is foolish….things like 9/11 strengthen a nation….this on the other hand weakens its foundation….no empire That suffers from moral decay can stand long…the Romans and Greeks fell…like wise This nation will come close…except the 2nd coming will take place before it gets there… ---
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/33 "2003-07-29T13:11:41Z")
I have a friend who says she is gay, but I don’t believe her. She has been hurt by men in her life, so I think that’s why she can’t love them. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/34 "2003-07-29T13:36:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Isabelle \* > \*\*The main problem is that in an attempt to try and make the gay issues main stream > and normal, you have to weaken the Constitution of this country. You have to rule > Out morality as a basis for law…once you do that, you break down the standards > On which our government is founded…do that often enough and the country will > Be brought to the brink of anarchy….it will not fall, but it will come close… \*\* [Fallacy of the slippery slope](http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html). ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/35 "2003-07-29T13:41:37Z")
I think the existance of people like **Radon** and **Kputt** are evidence of why gay kids have a very hard time going to high school and why they need a “safe zone” from such people. ---
**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/36 "2003-07-29T13:47:12Z")
No. I never give gay people a hard time. I don’t discriminate. Remember, hate the sin, not the sinner. I’m not going to hold someone accountable and pick on them because they choose to live a certain lifestyle. Just because I don’t agree with it doesn’t mean I’m going to hate gay people. IMHO, it doesn’t biologically exist. I have a gay friend for crying out loud. BTW, I never got a safe zone for “being fat”, “having ADHD”, and a “learning disability”. Don’t you be accusing me of hating gay people and picking on them. I just don’t do that stuff. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/37 "2003-07-29T13:47:50Z")
I think they should have a high school for kids with red hair. Kids with red hair are picked on all the time. Everytime my son would go out in public (as a child) people always asked “where did you get that red hair?” Even jokes are made about “red headed step children” It’s not fair. They should have their own school too \ \ ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/38 "2003-07-29T13:54:27Z")
Isabelle said, “The main problem is that in an attempt to try and make the gay issues main stream and normal, you have to weaken the Constitution of this country. You have to rule Out morality as a basis for law…once you do that, you break down the standards On which our government is founded…do that often enough and the country will Be brought to the brink of anarchy….it will not fall, but it will come close…” Who determines what is moral? Certainly not some christian fundy right-wing group that thinks an imaginary superior writes the rules for EVERYONE…even those that don’t BELIEVE in him! ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/39 "2003-07-29T13:56:54Z")
Kputt said, “hate the sin, not the sinner”. You don’t actually believe that intelligent people buy into that bullshit, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/40 "2003-07-29T13:59:40Z")
Kputt said, “BTW, I never got a safe zone for “being fat”, “having ADHD”, and a “learning disability”.” Well, you could have attended special ed classes (maybe entire schools, too…depending on the degree of disability). As for being fat, you could lose weight. Gay people don’t lose gay. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510.md?page=3)