# New York's First Gay High School. Necessary?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 28, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510 "2003-07-28T20:24:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/61 "2003-07-29T15:12:46Z")

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I will add this. I never ever said, nor do I believe, that gays are inferior to straight people.  
And whatever DNFTT means, right back at you.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/62 "2003-07-29T15:12:53Z")

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“That you would imply to any degree that the pain and suffering inflicted on gay youth at the hands of straights taught by people like you to hate stands, as Eve has alreasy stated, as proof of the need for this school.”

Should read

That you would imply to any degree that the pain and suffering inflicted on gay youth at the hands of straights taught by people like you to hate _is the fault of the gay youth for being gay_ stands, as Eve has already stated, as proof of the need for this school.

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**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/63 "2003-07-29T15:16:26Z")

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I never said anything against gays. I have many gay friends. I was only stating that our church had a club. I didn’t even say if I supported the club. SO don’t ASSUME anything.

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/64 "2003-07-29T15:16:33Z")

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I never made any gay person feel inferior. Yes, I had arguments about this with my friend who happens to be gay. However, she isn’t taking offense to me saying what I think, but as long as I don’t treat them as second class citizens, which I don’t. People I hate are Bin Laden and his group of bozos.

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/65 "2003-07-29T15:18:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Isabelle \*  
> \*\*I never said anything against gays. I have many gay friends. I was only stating that our church had a club. I didn’t even say if I supported the club. SO don’t ASSUME anything. \*\*

People in here don’t read your entire posts. They read one line, and then jump down your throats. I don’t know why they won’t read your entire posts, but they don’t. All I said is that this school shouldn’t be, and that I don’t think homosexuality biologically exists.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/66 "2003-07-29T15:22:51Z")

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Ummm, **Isabelle** , your post said, “Our church has a ‘recovering gay’ club. It is for reformed gay men and women who have come to learn that this is not the lifestyle for them. The guy that runs it (was) gay but is now in a hetero marriage.”

What exactly is one _supposed_ to infer from that, unless you add, “oh, and I totally disagree with such nonsense, of course?” If you do indeed disagree with such nonsense, then please indicate as much.

**Kputt** , no one is listening to you anymore. Go away, little man, you annoy me.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/67 "2003-07-29T15:23:16Z")

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> _Originally posted by kputt_  
> **Kalhun, you are the Putz. WHoever said anything about catching it or it being a disease. Learn how to read please!**

I think someone’s having a little fun at your expense.

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> **I don’t have gays**

I sat too close to this drag queen the other day and I had the gays for an entire week. Did wonders for my skin tone.

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/68 "2003-07-29T15:24:51Z")

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all I am going to say is UGGGHH!!! because what I wanted to say could have gotten me kicked off these boards.:mad:

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/69 "2003-07-29T15:28:36Z")

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**Kputt** , may I suggest you start a Pit Thread, where you can take to task all these mean people who refuse to kowtow to your hatred and ignorance?

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**Author:** ![Jabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jabba)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/70 "2003-07-29T15:29:57Z")

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If you want to complain about how you feel other posters are treating you, you could always post a rant in The Pit. Board rules about hate-speech, however, apply in that forum as in all others, so an anti-gay rant ( if couched in hateful language) would not be tolerated there either.

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**Author:** ![Jabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jabba)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/71 "2003-07-29T15:31:20Z")

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Great minds, **Eve** …

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**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/72 "2003-07-29T15:41:42Z")

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Truthfully I find it hard to believe anyone can change their orientation on a dime. I think gays are born that way. As I said I have many gay friends and I love them dearly.  
However I do NOT think there should be a school for gays only.  
Look at my previous email: I think they should have a Redhead school!

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/73 "2003-07-29T15:42:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\ ***Kputt** , may I suggest you start a Pit Thread, where you can take to task all these mean people who refuse to kowtow to your hatred and ignorance? \*\*

I would, except I’m not the one who is hating and I’m not the one who is ignorant.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/74 "2003-07-29T15:46:56Z")

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Mature people wouldn’t even argue with me or call me names, or tell me I’m full of hatred and ignorance because they don’t agree with my point of view. I DON"T hate gays, and I DON’T feel they are inferior to straight people, and I certainly DON’T look down on them!!! :mad:

I’m sorry people if you won’t read my posts correctly.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/75 "2003-07-29T15:50:41Z")

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Alright, **Isabelle** , I apologize for mistakenly thinking you agreed with that ex-gay movement."

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**Author:** ![Isabelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5a626/32.png) [@Isabelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isabelle)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/76 "2003-07-29T15:52:24Z")

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Apology accepted. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/77 "2003-07-29T15:52:44Z")

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And I DON’T support the anti-gay movement either.

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**Author:** ![kputt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@kputt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kputt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/78 "2003-07-29T15:54:18Z")

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Sorry if you think I was in support of the anti-gay movement.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/79 "2003-07-29T15:56:23Z")

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Kputt said, “Kalhun, you are the Putz. WHoever said anything about catching it or it being a disease. Learn how to read please!”

I’m reading just fine, Kputz. But I’m afraid your typing skills need as much work as your ability to distinguish between anti-gay rhetoric and the truth. Why don’t you try catching the “smarts.”

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-yorks-first-gay-high-school-necessary/191510/80 "2003-07-29T16:01:47Z")

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**Kputt** , in this thread you have stated,

Homosexuality is wrong. Sorry. If people want to live this way, they will have to face the consequences. Even if they have urges to like men if they are men, (same for women), they don’t have to act on them.

HOMOSExuality is a disorder.

I have a friend who says she is gay, but I don’t believe her. She has been hurt by men in her life, so I think that’s why she can’t love them.

IMHO, it doesn’t biologically exist.

Gay does go away because it is a chosen lifestyle. I don’t care what anyone says to dispute that.

Homosexuality is wrong and a sin. I believe it is an alternative lifestyle that is chosen by people to live.

—Can you see where people might get the idea that you are full of both hatred and ignorance?

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