# New Zealand poet Marian Hogg?  And Canadian Edna Jacques?

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**Created:** [March 26, 2002, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126 "2002-03-26T03:24:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/1 "2002-03-26T03:24:18Z")

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My mother has a booklet of verses by Marian Hogg, published in 1934 in Johnsonville, N.Z. IIRC, she was a teenager at the time. I Googled various ways and didn’t find anything (at least after I narrowed the searches enough for a reasonable number of results).

I found a couple of brief references to Edna Jacques, but a three-line bio and a reference to one collection aren’t very helpful.

Does anybody know anything about either?

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/2 "2002-03-26T03:57:37Z")

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I’ve searched about 10 NZ databases with no luck. Even their National Library is showing nothing. I’ve linked to this question on the G’Dope board in case any of our resident Kiwis have some more ideas where to search.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/3 "2002-03-26T04:29:49Z")

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Same here, **reprise**. I tried [anzwers.com.au](http://www.anzwers.com.au), which is a yahoo-powered Aussie and NZ search engine. I specified “search New Zealand only”, but came up with diddly squat.

I tried spelling the name “Marion” as well, but that didn’t work either. **rjk** , are you sure the details are correct?

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/4 "2002-03-26T04:35:35Z")

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The key might be that it’s a booklet **TLD** published while the poet was a teenager (although the fact it was published in NZ doesn’t necessarily mean she was from there) - it’s possible she was published under a different name later on.

I searched the literary data bases and came up blank.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/5 "2002-03-26T04:44:54Z")

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Was Marian Hogg’s poems self-published, or is there a publishing house on the small booklet? Like **reprise** and **TLD** , I’m coming up with zeroes so far in the search dept., but I’d like to know more about the booklet, what it looks like, and how it was printed. That might give us a lead.

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**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2002, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/6 "2002-03-26T07:00:36Z")

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Thanks for the searches, everybody.

That’s all the info I have on Marian Hogg; I just flipped through it when I was visiting my mother, and only thought about trying to find out more after I was on my way home. I’m sure of the spelling of the name, and remember Johnsonville and the date.

And nobody knows Edna? I’m not surprised.

I’ll resurrect this thread after I call and get more details.

Thanks again.

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**Author:** ![Redboss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@Redboss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redboss)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-poet-marian-hogg-and-canadian-edna-jacques/100126/7 "2002-03-27T04:04:57Z")

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Marian Hogg and Edna Jaques  
Two slender young girls make common mistakes,  
Thinking a slender gilt volume makes  
Poets of Hogg and Edna Jacques.

Edna Jacques and Marian Hogg;  
A couplet is easy, a sonnet’s a slog,  
Your prosody croaks like a barking frog.  
Sorry, dear Edna and Marian Hogg.

Marian H and Edna J  
The years have hidden, until today.  
Retrieved, brushed down and thrust upstage,  
Are Edna J and Marian H.

Marian Hogg and Edna Jacques,  
The public’s attention falters and breaks,  
Back to antipodean fog  
Creep Edna Jacques and Marian Hogg.  
Redboss (age 11 years)
