# Newer movies that will probably stand the test of time. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 7, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659 "2004-04-07T01:32:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/21 "2004-04-07T17:44:53Z")
The LOTR trilogy Saving Private Ryan Toy Story Unforgiven Pulp Fiction ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/22 "2004-04-07T18:32:47Z")
I’ll nominate two that haven’t been released. I’ve got a good feeling about **Troy** and Oliver Stone’s **Alexander**. I think they’re the type people will remember. Last years movies (other than those mentioned)? I know a lot of people that love **21 Grams** , myself included. **The Last Samurai** might stand a chance as well. There are a few others that deserve to be remembered but won’t be ( **House of Sand and Fog, American Splendor, Whale Rider, Triplets of Belleville, In America, a few more I can’t think of** ). ---
**Author:** ![Lobelia\_Overhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@Lobelia\_Overhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobelia_Overhill)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/23 "2004-04-07T20:38:47Z")
I wonder in many many years time will people think Eps I, II and III were made first and be totally confused by the whole thing? I’m voiting for **Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure** , and **The Princess Bride**. Just because … ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/24 "2004-04-07T21:53:03Z")
> [@Master Wang-Ka](#): > > I’d vote for **The Terminator** , believe it or not. It’s a B-movie, sure, but it may well be the best B-movie ever made…[snip] [Actually, THIS is the finest B-movie ever made.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106308/) Though I don’t disagree with The Terminator as a film to stand the test of time. I’d also put **Die Hard** on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/25 "2004-04-07T21:55:21Z")
I’ll second **Leon** , **Pulp Fiction** , **House of Sand and Fog** and **Terminator 1**. I also think **City of Lost Children** will be a classic weird creepy semi-noir little gem of a film that weirdos like me will love for years to come. I am not really sure about Burton’s **Batman Return’s** as the absolute majority of people think its far too dark, but as far as I am concerned it will allways be just dark enough. ---
**Author:** ![robgruver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@robgruver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robgruver)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/26 "2004-04-07T23:43:17Z")
Hmmm… I ask a question simalar to this one at dinner parties. My favorite answer is _The Cider House Rules_. A fine film, with excellent acting. Michael Caine is terrific. The other is _Spiderman_. A true masterpiece of comic book film making (plus I can’t help it that I find Kirsten Dunst is oh, so tasty). ---
**Author:** ![Dignan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@Dignan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dignan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/27 "2004-04-08T01:05:25Z")
OK, there are plenty that were listed that I agree with, so there’s no point in going over them again. And this might sound like a homer pick, but it isn’t. Really. It’s more of a suggestion/prediction: if Owen Wilson is able to stick around **Bottle Rocket** will be discovered by more people and revered as a true masterpiece. [sub]I can always hope.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/28 "2004-04-08T02:08:29Z")
> [@](#): > > I can name any number of Disney imitators who lie forgotten in the dirt, over the last half dozen decades. Sure, but can you name any that had the box office numbers of, say, _Finding Nemo_? 🙂 > [@](#): > > Then again, Pixar is usually quite good. Precisely. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/29 "2004-04-08T02:25:46Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Sure, but can you name any that had the box office numbers of, say, _Finding Nemo_? Let’s not confuse big box office with being a good, well-remembered film. After all, **Scooby-Doo** made $270 million in worldwide gross, prior to home video. That doesn’t relieve it from being a steaming pile of sh_t. It was just a financially-successful steaming pile of sh_t. **Clerks** made $3 million at the box office. It will be remembered much more fondly. /hated, hated, HATED “Finding Nemo”, but seems to be the only person in the world that did, so isn’t making a big deal about it ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/30 "2004-04-08T02:27:54Z")
Donnie Darko I say! ---
**Author:** ![ThatGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e5b9ba/32.png) [@ThatGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThatGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/31 "2004-04-08T02:52:24Z")
“American Beauty”…i don’t think that movie can age. It’ll still be fresh and beautifull for decades to come. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/32 "2004-04-08T03:04:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Let’s not confuse big box office with being a good, well-remembered film. False dichotomy. _Finding Nemo_ was both financially successful and a good (and I anticipate) well-remembered film. And you can bet your ass that there are a lot of kids out there who saw _Scooby Doo_ and will fondly remember it for the rest of their lives, in spite of it being a huge, steaming pile of shit. I was so stoned during the movie that I literally remember nothing about it, except that Velma was played ably by someone who would normally be considered a “hot chick.” ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/33 "2004-04-08T03:09:06Z")
> [@](#): > > /hated, hated, HATED “Finding Nemo”, but seems to be the only person in the world that did, so isn’t making a big deal about it Out of innocent curiosity, what did you hate about it? Just in terms of craftsmanship, it made my jaw drop, and had a classic hero’s quest at the heart of it…right down to the trip to and deliverance from the underworld. I mean, Christ, just the particle effects in the ocean were stunning. Such attention to detail. Amazing. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/34 "2004-04-08T03:55:07Z")
For Pixar films, I think Bug’s Life will be forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/35 "2004-04-08T04:05:39Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > And you can bet your ass that there are a lot of kids out there who saw _Scooby Doo_ and will fondly remember it for the rest of their lives, in spite of it being a huge, steaming pile of shit. True, but there’s a significant difference between “fondly remembered” and “remembered.” If I get the point of this thread, we’re talking about movies that will stand the test of 10, 15, 20, 30 or 50 years. I cannot see “Scooby Doo” being one of those films, but I could see, say, “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” But your mileage may vary. > [@Ogre](#): > > Out of innocent curiosity, what did you hate about it? Just in terms of craftsmanship, it made my jaw drop, and had a classic hero’s quest at the heart of it…right down to the trip to and deliverance from the underworld. Simply put, it was a little too self-aware about what heartstrings it was tugging at all the right moments. It felt a little too smug and self-serving. And don’t get me started on Ellen Degeneres. I find her annoying in every single incarnation, and that includes animated voice-over. > [@Ogre](#): > > I mean, Christ, just the particle effects in the ocean were stunning. Such attention to detail. Amazing. Good effects do not equal good movie, unfortunately. To me, F.N. was flashy fluff. I’d put it in the same category as “Independence Day” and “Twister.” Again, YMMV. I don’t have the world’s best relationship with my father, so it wasn’t exactly tugging all my heartstrings and blinding me to what a bland film it really was. And don’t get me wrong, I love all of Pixar’s other efforts. But this one… Meh. ---
**Author:** ![Lisa-go-Blind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Lisa-go-Blind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lisa-go-Blind)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/36 "2004-04-08T04:14:17Z")
> [@Dignan](#): > > OK, there are plenty that were listed that I agree with, so there’s no point in going over them again. > > And this might sound like a homer pick, but it isn’t. Really. It’s more of a suggestion/prediction: if Owen Wilson is able to stick around **Bottle Rocket** will be discovered by more people and revered as a true masterpiece. > > [sub]I can always hope.[/sub] I think **Rushmore** and **The Royal Tenenbaums** will be remembered as well. Wes Anderson is a master. [sub]I was not surprised when I scrolled up to see your user name and location, by the way.[/sub] I also think **Four Weddings and a Funeral** will stand as a classic romantic comedy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/37 "2004-04-08T04:35:36Z")
**Something’s Gotta Give**. It’s a cozy little romantic comedy that has some incredible performances in it, and the only thing that can really date it is the Viagra references. ---
**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/38 "2004-04-08T04:54:45Z")
> [@ThatGuy](#): > > “American Beauty”…i don’t think that movie can age. It’ll still be fresh and beautifull for decades to come. Or possibly sophomoric and cliched… My vote: Kurosawa’s _Ran._ ---
**Author:** ![Trigonal\_Planar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Trigonal\_Planar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trigonal_Planar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/39 "2004-04-08T04:57:11Z")
**Jurassic Park** - at least for those who lived through its hype. **The Truman Show** - maybe not, but _I_ sure hope it does. **Independence Day** - I didn’t like it, but it’ll certainly live on. ---
**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659/40 "2004-04-08T05:08:45Z")
> [@ThatGuy](#): > > “American Beauty”…i don’t think that movie can age. It’ll still be fresh and beautifull for decades to come. Sorry to sound snarky there, **ThatGuy** 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newer-movies-that-will-probably-stand-the-test-of-time/238659.md?page=3)