# Newest Chick Tract: "The Lost Day" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 12, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292 "2005-09-12T18:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/21 "2005-09-12T19:20:59Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > Yes, that’s odd. Presumably the school holiday for the fourth Thursday in November is listed on school calendars as “Holiday that must not be mentioned in school”. That’s a lot to fit into one little square. **John Mace** , yes, he’s serious. I remember being scared to death reading one of his tracts as a child. Put him up there with Phelps, but I think Phelps has him beat for all-out hatefulness. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/22 "2005-09-12T19:24:52Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > I’m Jewish and I celebrate Thanksgiving. Does that make me a crypto-Christian? I’m an atheist and I celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter. I’m afraid to introduce myself to Mr. Chick for fear his head would explode. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/23 "2005-09-12T19:43:42Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > The same way that I’m both man and the son of (a) man. > > [The trinity.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity) Yeah, but Chick seems to be saying that God _is_ Jesus, not that God _exists in_ Jesus. Besides, I was being literal. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/24 "2005-09-12T20:08:47Z")
I recall reading somewhere, perhaps in “Lies My Teacher Told Me”, that the Pilgrims has to rob native graves and eat the rotting corpses to survive. Is this true? Would have made a more interesting panel than “finding corn”, I’d say… ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/25 "2005-09-12T20:18:51Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > I’m an atheist and I celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter. I’m afraid to introduce myself to Mr. Chick for fear his head would explode. 😃 Actually, I’d buy you a ticket to meet him, but on the condition I get to come with a video camera to capture the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/26 "2005-09-12T20:20:19Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > I recall reading somewhere, perhaps in “Lies My Teacher Told Me”, that the Pilgrims has to rob native graves and eat the rotting corpses to survive. Is this true? Yes and no. Loewen says they did rob graves, but just looted them, didn’t eat the corpses or anything like that. They also seem to have dug up food from some location- it’s not clear to me from the quoted passage whether “Cornhill” was a grave or not. > [@James Loewen](#): > > > [@Pilgrim journal](#): > > > > We marched to the place we called Cornhill, where we had found the corn before. At another place we had seen before, we dug and found some more corn, two or three baskets full, and a bag of beans… In all we had about ten bushels, which will be enough for seed. It was with God’s help that we found this corn, for how else could we have done it, without meeting some Indians who might trouble us… > > The next morning, we found a place like a grave. We decided to dig it up. We found first a mat, and under that a fine bow… We also found bowls, trays, dishes, and things like that. We took several of the prettiest things to carry away with us, and covered the body up again > > A place “like a grave”! ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/27 "2005-09-12T20:35:47Z")
In a purely narrative sense, this tract is an improvement over the previous “art curator” fiasco. The story hangs together, the dialog makes sense, and the characters are fully realized. Unfortunately, Chick’s determination to set characters and action within a Hellish, sin-laden mise-en-scene destroys the credibility of the tract and obstructs his larger message. We all can relate to stories of dysfunctional families at holiday time. But, few of us walk into Thanksgiving dinner to find a guy with a “Nuke 'em” T-shirt crawling up over his belly who wishes we were dead! And yes, people sometimes get lost in football and alcohol and lose sight of the holiday. But few of us have pre-adolescent children openly dealing PCP and crack in our living rooms before holiday dinner! One thinks that this bizarre family, half Hells Angels and half dowdy matrons, must have larger problems than finding Jesus. As so often, a more understated approach would have been more effective. But then, it wouldn’t be Chick. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/28 "2005-09-12T20:41:54Z")
Thanks for the clarification **Anne Neville**! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/29 "2005-09-12T21:26:28Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > This was my first exposure to Jack Chick. I still don’t get it. Is it parody, or is the guy serious. 100% serious? Serious, as mentioned. For a class project, I went to Mass this past Sunday at the local Basilica. It was, overall, a fairly pleasant experience–better than this atheist boy had hoped. However, I did notice that some asshole had dropped a Chick Tract into the collection plate. I only saw the back of the pamphlet, so I don’t know which title it was (I hope “Death Cookies,” Chick’s screed against communion), but I know that the sermon that week was on the necessity of forgiveness, and that the priest was about to get a chance to practice what he preached. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/30 "2005-09-12T21:29:06Z")
> [@Pilgrim journal](#): > > It was with God’s help that we found this corn, for how else could we have done it, without meeting some Indians who might trouble us… There you go, kiddies! God doesn’t want you to deal PCP at Autumn Holiday dinner or say “darling” to somebody of the same gender, but he will help you steal other people’s food without getting caught! As long as you remember to thank Jesus! (I hadn’t noticed before that when Nuke 'Em Beer Guy says “I’ll never get saved!”, what his little devil shouts is “Hallelujah!” 😕 Also, didja notice that Jack had to put up a sign saying “All Parties Cancelled” in the last panel, apparently for fear that some people might get the idea that Hell is gonna be fun?) ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/31 "2005-09-12T21:34:13Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > I’m Jewish and I celebrate Thanksgiving. Does that make me a crypto-Christian? > > Robin ;j Hey, we’ll take 'em however we can get 'em! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/32 "2005-09-12T21:35:32Z")
The little girl yelling, “My blood sugar’s low,” is a direct ripoff from a minivan commercial. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/33 "2005-09-12T21:39:37Z")
> [@ExtraKun](#): > > Hey, dude, not every country and culture has Thanksgiving. It is a purely an American holiday. Canada has it too, about a month earlier than the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/34 "2005-09-12T21:46:04Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > I’m Jewish and I celebrate Thanksgiving. Does that make me a crypto-Christian? > > Robin ;j [Is Thanksgiving Kosher?](http://www.tfdixie.com/special/thanksg.htm) I always viewed it as a secular holiday with religious overtones. ;j ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/35 "2005-09-12T21:47:42Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I always viewed it as a secular holiday with religious overtones. Like Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/36 "2005-09-12T21:47:51Z")
> [@Freddy the Pig](#): > > One thinks that this bizarre family, half Hells Angels and half dowdy matrons, must have larger problems than finding Jesus. Hey, it’s a lot like my exended family, and we have _lots_ of fun on Thanksgiving. (No PCP though.) ---
**Author:** ![gaucho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@gaucho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaucho)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/37 "2005-09-12T22:00:25Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > I’m an atheist and I celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter. I’m afraid to introduce myself to Mr. Chick for fear his head would explode. 😃 Yeah, but I think the point is that for you it’s just another day of gay sex and trippin’ off sherm. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/38 "2005-09-12T22:10:37Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Well, Chinese folk are going to hell, obviously! HAW HAW HAW! OK, now I’m laughing so hard I’m crying. Damn you, **ivylass**! ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/39 "2005-09-12T22:10:54Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Hey, it’s a lot like my exended family, and we have _lots_ of fun on Thanksgiving. (No PCP though.) So now you know what to bring this year. 😃 I’m never real sure what’s in those congealed Hell-O molds. A little PCP might be one of the secret ingredients. I’m really disappointed Bob didn’t show up for dinner. What’s a Thanksgiving tract without good ol’ [del]John Waters[/del] Uncle Bob? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292/40 "2005-09-12T22:12:05Z")
I like the woman on the left side of the third panel, holding the martini glasses. Notice that her “Hic!” is in a thought bubble, not a speech bubble. Apparently, she’s only considering getting the hiccups. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-chick-tract-the-lost-day/321292.md?page=3)