# Newest Great Debate... \[Is there one Grand Conspiracy controlling the evil in the world?\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671 "2016-10-04T23:24:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![triton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@triton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/triton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/1 "2016-10-04T23:24:17Z")
After so many years of conspiratorial propaganda and theorists divulging the wicked ways of the seriously twisted mind we come to an age where conspiracy is no longer dwelled upon or even thought of by many… Aside the opposition of paranoia involved in the progression of these theories conspiracy serves as a great foundation for many perplexities in life. However, now it has been made apparent that maybe all these sandals in the white house and otherwise were indirectly connected to the web of (a) wicked spider(s). Has it really been the mindful escape to possibilities that lead us from the debate for so long or was it the actuality and reality invited by the means of which I am about to reveal… Is there really many theories we should prove or disprove. Or is there simply one. One conspiracy that our mindfulness and intellect should gain focus of. Theorists have outlined good points. All theories consist of evil plotting and a grouped center that ultimately evades public eye and secretly works towards the main goal. World destruction or utter chaos… Revelation states that tragedy will strike, but have we been reading the words of this “prophecy” (cough - conspiracy) correctly. Raconteuse minds unite to solve the puzzle an opposition of the likened has created. “Those who go last walk first. And the first shall walk second.” - does this maybe suggest the those who walk at night see the beginning of a new world and those that worked during the day shall sleep while they see to the start of our new world? Now faith is truly all any one can run to. (Rev. 2:10 - Be faithful unto death. Here you will receive your crown) - this may not be the crown you think. THE TRUTH IS THIS - when the world is doomed get up and run it. Individually our involvement and synergistic will are creative in the least. Operative word here… CREATIVE. Activeness takes over from there. No matter the action. DO and DONE DID\> :\_) Happy October and soon a spooky Holiday I wish to you all. MUAH!!! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/2 "2016-10-04T23:28:28Z")
What did I just read? I was choking on word salad and missed the point. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/3 "2016-10-04T23:34:27Z")
> [@triton](#): > > all these sandals in the white house At least he doesn’t wear socks with them, like a white guy. > [@](#): > > World destruction or utter chaos… Revelation states that tragedy will strike, but have we been reading the words of this “prophecy” (cough - conspiracy) correctly. Yeah, well, what are you gonna do. > [@](#): > > Raconteuse minds unite to solve the puzzle That may not be the noun you intended. But I’m not going to guess. > [@](#): > > THE TRUTH IS THIS Oh good, I’ve been waiting for years for that. > [@](#): > > Individually our involvement and synergistic will are creative in the least. Operative word here… CREATIVE. Activeness takes over from there. No matter the action. DO and DONE DID\> :\_) Happy October and soon a spooky Holiday I wish to you all. MUAH!!! IOW, Call the roller of big cigars, the muscular one, and bid him whip in kitchen cups concupiscent curds. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/4 "2016-10-04T23:35:28Z")
It still makes more sense than Time Cube. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/5 "2016-10-04T23:40:04Z")
I…AM…ENLIGHTENED!!! fnord ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/6 "2016-10-04T23:46:53Z")
I thought the OP was great in that movie, _Holes_, but I didn’t much care for him in the Transformer movies. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/7 "2016-10-04T23:47:00Z")
[Obligatory Homer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quOI_djS8oc) ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/8 "2016-10-04T23:48:44Z")
This will go well. When fish are in schools, they sometimes take debate. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/9 "2016-10-04T23:54:13Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > i…am…enlightened!!! > > fnord THERE…ARE…FOUR…LIGHTS!!! a ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/10 "2016-10-05T00:43:04Z")
I DID and DONE DO. HALLELUJAH. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/11 "2016-10-05T00:59:20Z")
I was with you until “raconteuse.” ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/12 "2016-10-05T01:34:13Z")
I just need one good reason why World Government™ is working toward utter chaos and world destruction. There people who are secretly running everything tend to like running everything. They would have the most to lose if it all comes crashing down. Alas, this smells like a one and done OP … ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/13 "2016-10-05T01:43:50Z")
What’s the frequency, Kenneth? I _think_ the OP is saying when the shit hits the fan and the masters destroy themselves through their hubris we should be the change we want to see in the new world. Or…something. Systems of control aren’t evil, they’re amoral. “World destruction or utter chaos” tends to be bad for business and would be avoided, at least purposefully. These systems do lead to destruction through war, environmental degradation, overpopulation, economic depressions, and so on. But it’s not usually part of the plan. The OP and other readers may enjoy [Meditiations on Moloch.](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/) It’s long. > [@](#): > > The implicit question is – if everyone hates the current system, who perpetuates it? And Ginsberg answers: “Moloch”. It’s powerful not because it’s correct – nobody literally thinks an ancient Carthaginian demon causes everything – but because thinking of the system as an agent throws into relief the degree to which the system isn’t an agent. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/14 "2016-10-05T01:47:09Z")
Everything is everything. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/15 "2016-10-05T01:50:12Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > What did I just read? I was choking on word salad and missed the point. “I know many big words and I’m not afraid to use them.” ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/16 "2016-10-05T02:01:03Z")
I’m thinking rant. Off to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/17 "2016-10-05T02:07:37Z")
So the world’s going to be destroyed by the people who want to run it, and when they do that, we should… run it? Might want to take another run at your thesis, champ. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/18 "2016-10-05T02:13:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Everything is everything. Hey, wait a minute, I was told that \*nothing \*is everything. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/19 "2016-10-05T02:16:13Z")
[Everything is AWESOME!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671/20 "2016-10-05T03:34:11Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > Hey, wait a minute, I was told that \*nothing \*is everything. No, no. [This](https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=gahan+wilson+is+nothing+sacred&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmtbni3MLPAhXEm5QKHTVrALkQ_AUIBygB&biw=1024&bih=768#imgrc=WWxpeGL0M_ZgFM%3A) tells you what nothing is. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newest-great-debate-is-there-one-grand-conspiracy-controlling-the-evil-in-the-world/767671.md?page=2)