# Newish eBay/PayPal Rule -- made me be done with both of them (longish) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 19, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992 "2009-08-19T20:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/21 "2009-08-20T19:14:46Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Jeez, okay, then, you disagree with everything I wrote. I’m probably not going to change your mind on anything, you’re unlikely to change mine, so I guess that’s that. Moving right along… No, I’m disagreeing with stupid shit that has no basis in reality. That you wrote it is incidental. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/22 "2009-08-20T19:17:31Z")
Just curious. How would Ebay/Paypal handle a dispute where it was simply one parties word against another? For example, you buy a $200 electronic device from me and I send you an empty box. You dispute the transaction with Paypal and want your money back saying that the box was empty. I swear on a stack of holy books that I sent you the electronic device. Who does Paypal side with? ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/23 "2009-08-20T19:20:26Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > No, I’m disagreeing with stupid shit that has no basis in reality. That you wrote it is incidental. It seems that nearly every poster in this thread agrees with me, except for you. I really don’t even understand why you’re continuing to debate. You’re not going to change my mind, especially not with your sniveling tone. You’re not going to get me to keep my PayPal account and continue using eBay. So why bother? I don’t want to feel like I have to read the fine print every time I make an online transaction. If you’re one of those types, then more power to you. Frankly, you’re coming off just like every other asshole who likes throws fine print in someone’s face when they’re blind-sided by something that really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense on its face. It doesn’t help anyone or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/24 "2009-08-20T19:24:43Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > It seems that nearly every poster in this thread agrees with me, except for you. Did you read my post? I think you are as much of an impatient and entitled jackass as R\_W does. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/25 "2009-08-20T19:25:53Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > I really don’t even understand why you’re continuing to debate. You’re not going to change my mind, especially not with your sniveling tone. You’re not going to get me to keep my PayPal account and continue using eBay. So why bother? because you started this thread looking for validation of your asinine position. i am the anti-validator in this respect. > [@](#): > > Frankly, you’re coming off just like every other asshole who likes throws fine print in someone’s face when they’re blind-sided by something that really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense on its face. It doesn’t help anyone or anything. Except it has been demonstrated to make a lot of sense on its face - you’re the one who is mistaken in that regard. But if you are at a level of critical analysis and reading comprehension that leads you to the conclusion that “nearly every poster in this thread agrees with me, except for you” well then I can see where you’re coming from. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/26 "2009-08-20T19:26:22Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Did you read my post? I think you are as much of an impatient and entitled jackass as R\_W does. Yeah, but your opinion doesn’t count. For anything. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/27 "2009-08-20T19:27:10Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Yeah, but your opinion doesn’t count. For anything. Right, but when you perceive that someone agrees with you, it’s suddenly validation that backs up your “argument”. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/28 "2009-08-20T19:27:47Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > because you started this thread looking for validation of your asinine position. Where did I say this? ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/29 "2009-08-20T19:28:49Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Right, but when you perceive that someone agrees with you, it’s suddenly validation that backs up your “argument”. Nope, it has nothing to do with that. You’re just a low-life whose opinion means jack-squat. Now, go kick your dog. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/30 "2009-08-20T19:30:18Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Where did I say this? Well then, please educate me as to why you posted your trite life-experience. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/31 "2009-08-20T19:30:33Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Nope, it has nothing to do with that. You’re just a low-life whose opinion means jack-squat. Now, go kick your dog. Huh? What makes you think I would do that? (if I had a dog) ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/32 "2009-08-20T19:32:23Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > Well then, please educate me as to why you posted your trite life-experience. Because it’s a rant. On a message board. Oh wait, there’s no possible way _I_ could educate _you_. Please don’t be foolish; you’re way ahead of the game already, with your firm grasp on reality and such. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/33 "2009-08-20T19:34:30Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Because it’s a rant. On a message board. and what is the point of a rant to an audience if you really don’t expect some validation? you may as well have written the thing in Notepad and then closed without saving if you really didn’t want any response. but you did. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/34 "2009-08-20T19:36:24Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Huh? What makes you think I would do that? (if I had a dog) It’s simple logic. The fact that you don’t have a dog proves that you hate dogs, so if you had one, you would surely kick it. Kyoo, ee, dee. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/35 "2009-08-20T19:37:10Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > It’s simple logic. The fact that you don’t have a dog proves that you hate dogs, so if you had one, you would surely kick it. Kyoo, ee, dee. But only if you have to wait 3 days before kicking it. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/36 "2009-08-20T19:38:58Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > and what is the point of a rant to an audience if you really don’t expect some validation? > > you may as well have written the thing in Notepad and then closed without saving if you really didn’t want any response. but you did. Perhaps I was simply pontificating on the trials and tribulations of the seldom eBay seller for my own regard. To you, does all public pontification require validation? Perhaps I just felt like posting the OP because I was angry and wanted to vent at you instead of my wife, because I was mightily pissed. If this thread dropped to the bottom without a response, I really don’t think I could have cared any less. But it did feel good typing it and I felt better immediately afterward, which is really the point anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/37 "2009-08-20T19:42:07Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Perhaps I was simply pontificating on the trials and tribulations of the seldom seldom eBay seller for my own regard. To you, does all public pontification require validation? > > Perhaps I just felt like posting the OP because I was angry and wanted to vent at you instead of my wife, because I was mightily pissed. > > If this thread dropped to the bottom without a response, I really don’t think I could have cared any less. But it did feel good typing it and I felt better immediately afterward, which is really the point anyway. funny you use the word “pontificate”. it pretty much fits your poorly analyzed blatherings to a Tee: 1 a : to officiate as a pontiff b : to celebrate pontifical mass 2 : to speak or express opinions **in a pompous or dogmatic way** ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/38 "2009-08-20T19:43:19Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > But only if you have to wait 3 days before kicking it. Holy crap, now that’s funny, tying the dog bit into the new Paypal rule. Clever as fuck, bro. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/39 "2009-08-20T19:46:09Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > funny you use the word “pontificate”.\*\* Why is it funny? ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992/40 "2009-08-20T19:46:58Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Why is it funny? look up the words “dogmatic” and “pompous” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newish-ebay-paypal-rule-made-me-be-done-with-both-of-them-longish/506992.md?page=3)