# Newly discovered comet could outshine the moon in 2013

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**Created:** [December 30, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606 "2012-12-30T22:12:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/21 "2013-01-01T18:24:58Z")

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So wait - this is a different comet to the one I read about a few months ago, meant to be at its brightest this March. You wait ages and then two come along at once… [C/2011 L4 (PanSTARRS) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2011_L4)

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/22 "2013-01-01T23:34:40Z")

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Way to stomp on my childlike wonder,\*\* Musicat\*\*.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/23 "2013-01-02T01:59:49Z")

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> [@NitroPress](#):
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> “But there appears to be something in its way.”
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> - most chilling line of an sf novel I’ve ever read.

Love that book…

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/24 "2013-01-02T02:17:36Z")

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> [@NitroPress](#):
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> “But there appears to be something in its way.”
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> - most chilling line of an sf novel I’ve ever read.

Okay, I’m not familiar with this one. Can you tell me the book?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/25 "2013-01-02T02:48:58Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Okay, I’m not familiar with this one. Can you tell me the book?

+1

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/26 "2013-01-02T03:02:01Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Way to stomp on my childlike wonder,\*\* Musicat\*\*.

Let me [Wiki](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_13) that for you.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/27 "2013-01-02T08:33:17Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Okay, I’m not familiar with this one. Can you tell me the book?

Me too.

I Googled that sentence, and all I got was this lousy thread. 😛

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/28 "2013-01-02T10:00:16Z")

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_Lucifer’s Hammer_, Larry Niven.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/29 "2013-01-02T10:07:29Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Hey, an omen is an omen.

If it appeared at the same time as a firearm of US Revolutionary vintage, would that be a Musket and Omen?

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/30 "2013-01-02T15:15:02Z")

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Squee! My fingers are crossed for this one. Halley, back in my childhood, was a bust for me as I recall. This, if it is in the moon-range of brightness, should be visible even here in Manhattan–we can still see the moon here. 😃

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/31 "2013-01-02T16:06:45Z")

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It might be visible in Manhatten, but trust me, even if it is, get out of town one night to go look at it. It will be like listening to a symphony on an MP3 player vs actually going to the symphony.

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/32 "2013-01-02T23:07:30Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> Squee! My fingers are crossed for this one. Halley, back in my childhood, was a bust for me as I recall. This, if it is in the moon-range of brightness, should be visible even here in Manhattan–we can still see the moon here. 😃

I think Halley’s Comet was a bust for me, too, and I did live in the sticks back then. However, Hale Bopp was pretty cool. I lived in the city (of St. Paul) by then and could see it very well with the naked eye.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/33 "2013-01-02T23:17:16Z")

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Yup, Hale Bop ruled. Was that the one where all the nut cases killed themselves so they could get on the mother headed to it?

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/34 "2013-01-02T23:20:32Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> The tail of [Comet West](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_West) was _huge_. What I saw with the naked eye was much more impressive than [this](http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Komet_West_-_Comet_West_-_Franz_Haar.JPG).
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> Now West reached -3 magnitude (~Jupiter at its brightest). The full moon is -13. No way is it going to get that bright. The most I would dream for is -8.

It could be a “great comet.”  
The last one, in 1680 was _[visible during the day](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Comet_of_1680)_!

Here’s hoping!  
BTW, I posted about this in October:

> **[Two good comets in 2013?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=667036)**
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> 2013 could be a good year for stargazers. I heard about C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) last year. It has the potential to be a bright, easily-visible comet. Just a few hours ago, there’s a report of a new comet: C/2012 S1. The breathless reports are that it...

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/35 "2013-01-02T23:43:47Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Yup, Hale Bop ruled. Was that the one where all the nut cases killed themselves so they could get on the mother headed to it?

I think so. Heaven’s Gate, I believe they were called.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/36 "2013-01-02T23:46:49Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I think so. Heaven’s Gate, I believe they were called.

I remember that name. Damn, too late to look for a big cult to all off themselves over this comet, and put them on a 2013 Death Pool list.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/37 "2013-01-03T00:11:39Z")

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Hyakutake was pretty bright around then too. The two have kind of blurred in my mind.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/38 "2013-01-03T00:22:15Z")

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Hya blew Hale away. But you had to be in a DARK site. And it was only really good for a few days. At its best as seen from a dark site when Hya was directly overhead the tail nearly reached the horizon. Hale Bopp wasn’t even close.

Again, I cannot over emphasize the importance of finding the darkest place you can find to watch this.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/39 "2013-01-03T16:28:07Z")

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How about my closet?

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newly-discovered-comet-could-outshine-the-moon-in-2013/645606/40 "2013-01-03T16:32:48Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> How about my closet?
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> –Cliffy

I find two good blankets to be sufficient. Not one, mind you, because the light leaks through.

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