# News anchor wonders what all the fuss is with the anti-gay Arizona bill - Weary commentator explains

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [March 4, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789 "2014-03-04T00:36:04Z")
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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/1 "2014-03-04T00:36:04Z")

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[What’s The Problem With The Arizona Anti-Gay Bill? A News Anchor Has It Explained To Her.](http://www.upworthy.com/whats-the-problem-with-the-arizona-anti-gay-bill-a-news-anchor-has-it-explained-to-her?c=slt1)

How can you explain this to someone who so aggressively doesn’t get it. She seems genuinely baffled at what all the fuss is. The look on his face at the end when she cuts him off says it all.

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### Author: ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/2 "2014-03-04T00:54:07Z")

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That’s not a “news anchor”, that’s Shannon Bream, a FOX “News” commentator. It’s in her job description to pretend to be confused when it comes to having civil rights explained to her.

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### Author: ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/3 "2014-03-04T01:01:24Z")

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It’s downright weird when Bernie fucking Goldberg isn’t the aggressively stupid person on-screen, making you want to Force Shake him through the interwebs. I’m all confused.

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### Author: ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/4 "2014-03-04T01:04:32Z")

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With allowances for the masculine pronoun choice of the day…  
[QUOTE=Upton Sinclair]  
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.  
[/quote]

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### Author: ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/5 "2014-03-04T01:05:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> That’s not a “news anchor”, that’s Shannon Bream, a FOX “News” commentator. It’s in her job description to pretend to be confused when it comes to having civil rights explained to her.

I did not know that news programs needed audience surrogates.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/6 "2014-03-04T01:14:09Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I did not know that news programs needed audience surrogates.

_News_ programs don’t.

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### Author: ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/7 "2014-03-04T01:16:25Z")

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His mistake was using something as mundane as a restaurant as an example. I like going out to eat as much as the next person, but it’s not a necessity.

Something like medical treatment is. What if a doctor refuses to treat a patient by citing their religion? And that’s the only doctor who is available?

Or what if you live in a small town, where everyone is ultra Christian and everyone conspires to deny you of services because you’re teh evil gay? Because you’re teh evil gay and everyone knows it, you can’t fill prescriptions, buy groceries, go to the movies, buy clothes, and get your car fixed. You not only suffer, but so do your children. What kind of people do they grow up to be, having been treated like second-class citizens their whole life? What does this do to a community, to have a portion of their populace marginalized just because the dominant religion rejects them?

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### Author: ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/8 "2014-03-04T03:01:21Z")

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As has been discussed in other places, the perfect example is those Southern towns where blacks were warned to get out of town by sunset. There were even travel books written warning black travelers what towns to avoid.

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### Author: ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/9 "2014-03-04T23:08:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> _News_ programs don’t.

The set up and he scores!

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### Author: ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/10 "2014-03-04T23:42:26Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> His mistake was using something as mundane as a restaurant as an example. I like going out to eat as much as the next person, but it’s not a necessity.
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> Something like medical treatment is. What if a doctor refuses to treat a patient by citing their religion? And that’s the only doctor who is available?
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> Or what if you live in a small town, where everyone is ultra Christian and everyone conspires to deny you of services because you’re teh evil gay? Because you’re teh evil gay and everyone knows it, you can’t fill prescriptions, buy groceries, go to the movies, buy clothes, and get your car fixed. You not only suffer, but so do your children. What kind of people do they grow up to be, having been treated like second-class citizens their whole life? What does this do to a community, to have a portion of their populace marginalized just because the dominant religion rejects them?

Ask any Black American who is in the “bottom” 95% of the Black population. They all know somebody who can answer that question.

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### Author: ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/11 "2014-03-05T01:11:24Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> [What’s The Problem With The Arizona Anti-Gay Bill? A News Anchor Has It Explained To Her.](http://www.upworthy.com/whats-the-problem-with-the-arizona-anti-gay-bill-a-news-anchor-has-it-explained-to-her?c=slt1)
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> How can you explain this to someone who so aggressively doesn’t get it. She seems genuinely baffled at what all the fuss is. The look on his face at the end when she cuts him off says it all.

She sure is pretty. And dumb as a post.

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### Author: ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/12 "2014-03-05T01:35:48Z")

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nm

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### Author: ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2014, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/13 "2014-03-05T06:00:04Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> She sure is pretty. And dumb as a post.

Dumb? Maybe not: **Crimestop** _n_ The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In short . . . protective stupidity.

- George Orwell, _A Newspeak Dictionary_

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### Author: ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2014, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/14 "2014-03-05T06:23:18Z")

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Or say a Muslim denying service to a woman who isn’t covered or accompanied by an adult, male relative etc. etc.

Anyone who doesn’t get that this is the thin edge of the wedge…

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### Author: ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/15 "2014-03-05T12:22:00Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Or say a Muslim denying service to a woman who isn’t covered or accompanied by an adult, male relative etc. etc.
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> Anyone who doesn’t get that this is the thin edge of the wedge…

I think people have a hard time with this because they can’t imagine that there wouldn’t be an alternative. If the Muslim shopkeeper doesn’t want to serve the pretty lady, why, the pretty lady can just go to the shop next door and be all the more better for it! Because FREE MARKET.

But minorities can’t always count on alternatives being there for them. If everyone in the freakin’ town has the same religious conviction and/or if all the alternatives are craptacular, _then_ what? Pick up and move? That’s great if you’ve got money. But it sucks for the decent, non-discriminatory tax-payers in the community who paid for your education all those years. They lose out on a good real estate agent, shoe salesman, dog-walker, or preschool teacher just because the merchant class is bigoted.

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### Author: ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/16 "2014-03-06T03:02:22Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> She sure is pretty. And dumb as a post.

And cheery.☹ Dumb and cheery don’t go together well. The cheeriness is wasted.

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### Author: ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/17 "2014-03-06T05:18:24Z")

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> [@Esox\_Lucius](#):
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> And cheery.☹ Dumb and cheery don’t go together well. The cheeriness is wasted.

I swear to God that Fox News is bringing blonde women to new lows. They are making Barbie look good. How is this possible?

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### Author: ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/18 "2014-03-06T08:28:04Z")

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Fwiw, I thought they did a good job of teasing out the issue.

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### Author: ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2014, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/19 "2014-03-06T09:55:41Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Dumb? Maybe not: **Crimestop** _n_ The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In short . . . protective stupidity.
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> - George Orwell, _A Newspeak Dictionary_

I think there are few books that have nailed their target quite so well and with such lasting power. It could have written yesterday.

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### Author: ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2014, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-anchor-wonders-what-all-the-fuss-is-with-the-anti-gay-arizona-bill-weary-commentator-explains/682789/20 "2014-03-06T10:20:44Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> But minorities can’t always count on alternatives being there for them. If everyone in the freakin’ town has the same religious conviction and/or if all the alternatives are craptacular, _then_ what?

And when you try to explain that, you get a roll-eyes and a contemptuous “oh, come on, stop exaggerating, that would never happen.”

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> Pick up and move?

That’s the standard libertarian solution for 90% of problems.

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