# NEWS FLASH: Obama not Muslim! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2010, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842 "2010-08-20T06:23:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/121 "2010-08-21T01:15:13Z")
I don’t think Obama’s a Muslim, but I am a little [worried that he’s bought out GM](http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/20%25-of-americans-think-obama-is-a-talking-car-201008203021/). ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/122 "2010-08-21T01:33:21Z")
Barack Obama is a Hewlett Packard Deskjet printer. Black and white, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/123 "2010-08-21T01:48:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Barack Obama is a Hewlett Packard Deskjet printer. Black and white, obviously. Nonsense. We all know he’s colored. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/124 "2010-08-21T01:51:35Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > > > [I never said he “might be” a muslim either. I said I wouldn’t be surprised _if he said he was_. > > Why? Fuckin’ why do you you want him to be a thing he is not? What makes you think I “want” him to be anything? Other than a conservative, that is. Do you still think I think he’s a Muslim? I like how Pit posters walk around with this basket of beliefs that they hate, and as soon as someone shows up that doesn’t fit in with their clique, they force the basket into their hands. Then they raise the hue and cry, going “Look what he believes! Look at the stupid fool!” followed by a lynching. To you guys, “I don’t think he’s a Christian” = “I think he’s a Muslim” “I wouldn’t be shocked if he were a Muslim” = “I think he’s a Muslim” “I never said that” = “I never said that but I want to say that” “He grew up in a Muslim country” = “He grew up a Muslim” It’s silly, really. I wouldn’t bother to post in the Pit at all anymore if it weren’t so damn fun to mock you all for it. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/125 "2010-08-21T01:54:29Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Absolutely not. I completely reject that 6-10 is particularly formative, Oh, god damn it. Could you please fuck off, Dio? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/126 "2010-08-21T01:59:17Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Do you still think I think he’s a Muslim? No. But I do believe you said you wouldn’t be surprised if he said he was… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/127 "2010-08-21T02:30:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I do sometimes wonder when all these people who claim he is a secret Muslim (or secret anything) think he’s going to cast off his disguise and reveal his master plan. He’s in the White House - what is he waiting for? He and McCain are still working on the secret tunnel, to steal the Hope Diamond, just like on South Park 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/128 "2010-08-21T02:33:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Bosstone](#): > > > > And his favorite musician is Carlos Sa[sub]n[/sub]tan[sub]a[/sub]! > > Favorite hockey player? [Satan.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_%C5%A0atan) Holy shit. Maybe he could be a MiroslavŠatanist!!! OMG WTF ROFLcopter! ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/129 "2010-08-21T02:44:04Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > Absolutely not. I completely reject that 6-10 is particularly formative, > > Oh, god damn it. Could you please fuck off, Dio? I lived in a predominately Muslim country from age 7-11. I went to school with Muslim kids, I went to their homes almost every day, they were my best friends. The only effect it has had on my life is that I don’t pee down my leg when I hear the word “Muslim.” Seriously, if you think it means something major in your personal development as a person, you are profoundly ignorant. Seriously, you are. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/130 "2010-08-21T02:44:19Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > … the White House has to do the Press Release thing to remind folks that our President doesn’t have to go swing a dead cat counterclockwise over his head near a fresh grave during a new moon (or what the fuck ever) to get his worship on. Well, I’ve heard he _has_ supposedly renounced the Koran, even though he swore on one for his inauguration. Only 34% of Americans – smartest people in the Solar System – believe he’s Christian, and the percentage is even lower among Americans who actually voted in the Presidential election for … an American! But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he’s not a Muslim anymore. **But** , as far as I know, no one at the White House has _ever_ denied that he “swings dead cats counterclockwise over his head near a fresh grave during a new moon.” If it weren’t true, why aren’t they denying it? At this point, I’m afraid I won’t believe them even if they do deny it. I think us Patriots should demand photographs of Obama _not_ swinging dead cats counterclockwise. Hope this helps. Has Sarah picked her running-mate yet? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/131 "2010-08-21T03:05:43Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Seriously, if you think it means something major in your personal development as a person, you are profoundly ignorant. Seriously, you are. Really. First, second, third, _and_ fourth grade had nothing to do with who you are today? This blows my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/132 "2010-08-21T03:09:11Z")
For me, the formative years part is neither here nor there. I just don’t see why spending your early years in a Muslim country means anything. What I think would mean the most is what your nuclear family is doing. I’ve lived pretty much my whole life, except for a few early years, in the USA, but I’m not even remotely Christian, and I’d be weirded out if someone said they wouldn’t be surprised if I was. Not because being Christian is bad, but because there’s really no reason to think that. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/133 "2010-08-21T03:11:28Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Has Sarah picked her running-mate yet? Yes. It’s me. We’re running on the “elementary school had no effect on me” ticket. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/134 "2010-08-21T03:54:50Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > > [@Kobal2](#): > > > > Seriously, what can the guy do to please you folk ? > > 1. Go back in time and not win the election. > 2. Admit that he was born in Kenya and/or is a Muslim, so that they can a) remove him from office or 2)…[I don’t know, point and say “I told you so!”?] > 3. Go away. Somehow. 1. Defect to the Republican Party!.. duh. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/135 "2010-08-21T04:01:26Z")
People, please. What **Chess** is saying isn’t nearly as bad as you’d all like it to be. Can we please refrain from latching on, fear dear life, onto a few words of his entire posts? He said he wouldn’t be surprised because he believes Obama to be an atheist, but if he isn’t, it’s not so completely beyond the realm of possibility that he is a Muslim, considering he had a father who was at one point Muslim, and lived in Indonesia for a while, that Chess would be surprised. Islam might be his “background religion.” That’s not nearly the same thing as being some crazy “I’ll bet you one trillion dollars that Obama is a secret Muslim nigger from Mars who is related to Hitler” teabagging loony. Mind you folks, I disagree with some of what he’s saying, but still. I agree that Obama is faking religion, but I _would_ be surprised to find Obama was Muslim, mainly because I am so thoroughly convinced that he is atheist. I’d be somewhat less surprised (but still very surprised) to find he was Christian, and believe that’s probably his background religion, not Islam. While he may have lived in Indonesia for a few years as a child, and his father may have been a Muslim, 1) he spent most of his life in the U.S. where Christianity was the default, and 2) he wasn’t raised by his father; he was raised by his mother who couldn’t have been less Muslim if she tried. Also, it’s worth pointing out that his father has abandoned Islam before Obama was born. And then plus all that stuff about him having his children baptized and marrying Michelle (unless her secret background religion is Islam too), and yes, him saying he’s a Christian over and over again, and going to church (sometimes) carries some weight, but I don’t take it as the gospel. At this point, Obama is so far removed from Islam that I’d be equally surprised to find he was Muslim as I’d be if I discovered he was a Buddhist. The tenuous ties to Indonesia when he was in third grade are shoddy at best. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/136 "2010-08-21T04:10:04Z")
**MeanOldLady** , would you marry me? Us, actually… The wife thinks you rock, and I am forever her servant. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/137 "2010-08-21T04:18:02Z")
Yes. I mean, are you guys rich? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/138 "2010-08-21T04:18:13Z")
I was going to post something derogatory about the entire subject, but **MeanOldLady** with her ‘People, please’ post pretty much put me in my place. Seriously, everyone here KNOWS that our president is actually a puppet of our beloved reptilian masters, so why all the brouhaha? The sooner you realize, the easier it will all be. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/139 "2010-08-21T04:19:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Bryan Eckers](#): > > > > Well, yeah… and that they might take the sky fairy’s advice seriously. > > This of course begs the question of why Obama prays daily and feels it necessary to consult with his ‘religious advisor’ daily and ‘group of pastors’ regularly. Just for shits and giggles? > > Wait, hold on, I just remembered the answer to the question of why Republicans get grief here for their religious convictions but Democrats don’t. The Democrats are just _pretending_, you see…putting on a show for the benefit of the religious Philistines who make up this country’s votership… There’s praying and seeking spiritual solace (which I’d sure as hell need if I had The World’s Highest Pressure Job), and there’s making a big show of making public policy based on what you “hear” during those prayer sessions. Back when I was a campus pastor, I’d’ve thought it was healthy if a student said they prayed before a final. But if they said that Sky Pixie told them to mark _D: None Of The Above_ on Question 43, I’d worry. And what really scares me about some politicians is that they’re blindly following what some pastor (or radio personality) told them The Bible “really means”… I was always waiting for GWB to slip and say “Well, our policies are bringing us closer to Armageddon, which I’m all in favor of. Because, well, you know, then Jesus’ll come back sooner. Heh, heh.” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842/140 "2010-08-21T04:23:01Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Seriously, everyone here KNOWS that our president is actually a puppet of our beloved reptilian masters, so why all the brouhaha? Thank you!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/news-flash-obama-not-muslim/550842.md?page=8)