# Newscasters Voice.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [March 19, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498 "2016-03-19T09:23:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![wreckage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@wreckage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wreckage)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/1 "2016-03-19T09:23:19Z")

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I shall defend the English language whenever necessary!

“… the rest of us slobs;…” AAAaaarrrgh!!

…the rest of WE slobs… please. 😉

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/2 "2016-03-19T18:27:37Z")

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Whoosh?

I think that We the People of SDMB will mostly agree that “the rest of us slobs” is correct. It’s the object of a preposition here. What say the rest of US Dopers?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/3 "2016-03-19T18:29:33Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/4 "2016-03-19T20:58:03Z")

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Agreed, **Senegoid**. _Us slobs_ is the object of the preposition, _of_. It should use the object form, not the subject form.

> **[The Grammarphobia Blog: “We” vs. “us”](https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2007/04/we-vs-us.html)**

Oh yeah, the column.

> **[Why do newscasters all talk the same?](https://www.straightdope.com/21344374/why-do-newscasters-all-talk-the-same)**

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**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/5 "2016-03-19T20:59:29Z")

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Take out the “slobs.”

“The rest of **us** ” sounds right.

“The rest of **we** ” does not.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/6 "2016-03-19T22:31:53Z")

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We slobs on the SDMB disagree with the OP’s purported correction. It is the contention of us slobs that he is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Kiwi-Ian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc348/32.png) [@Kiwi-Ian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiwi-Ian)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/7 "2016-03-22T04:19:47Z")

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There was a good reason why “BBC English” was developed, everyone could understand it easily, native speakers and speakers of English as a second language. Very difficult to actually speak it but even over a hissy interference prone radio it could be understood.

However I have trouble understanding some American broadcasters nowadays, as do many of my non mother tongue friends, as the accent becomes more pronounced, but it is easier to speak it.

Throughout the world (except apparently in the US) newscasters and announcers are becoming regionalised so that our newsreaders are identifiably New Zealanders, not even Australian, and the British have accepted Welshmen and Scots onto prime time news.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newscasters-voice/749498/8 "2016-03-22T11:52:58Z")

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> [@Kiwi-Ian](#):
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> the British have accepted Welshmen and Scots onto prime time news.

Times have changed since the merest of Yorkshire inflections (not dialect idioms or any strength of accent) reading the news caused complaints, as happened in 1941 to a man called Wilfred Pickles (I’ve heard the recording, you could hardly tell it apart from a standard BBC voice of the period, but later as an actor and light entertainment presenter he broadened the accent a lot).

Now there is a much wider range of accents, in terms mainly of vowel sounds, but if they get too far from RP, particularly into accents that are perceived to be a bit more below the salt (mostly Midlands or perceived lower-class London), or especially if they start to wander into irritating speech habits (pausing in odd places, too many ums and ers, or too flat and monotonous) then there are complaints. It’s a difficult balance to strike when you’re supposed to be reading the news neutrally but authoritatively.

Of course, it’s different for presenters of entertainment programmes and the like. There it’s more about establishing a personality with the audience.
