# Newsmax blogger John Perry dreams of military coup against Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 5, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680 "2009-10-05T15:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/1 "2009-10-05T15:41:47Z")
From this week’s Democratic Underground [“Top 10 Conservative Idiots”:](http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/374) > [@](#): > > Newsmax > > Just in case you’re still unclear on where the right-wing stands vis-a-vis America, conservative author John L. Perry can help you out. Last week Perry penned a column for Newsmax which - believe it or not - fantasized about a [military coup](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/09/30/newsmax/index.html) that might take place inside the United States. > > > [@](#): > > > > There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the “Obama problem.” Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic. > > > > (snip) > > > > Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making. > > > > Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible. > > Yeah, that’s the ticket! Toss out all those useless democratically-elected civilians and replace then with “skilled, military-trained, nation-builders.” What better way to “restore and defend the Constitution.” > > But don’t worry - Newsmax subsequently [removed the column](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/09/30/newsmax_statement/index.html) and tried to claim that Perry has “no official relationship with Newsmax other than as an unpaid blogger.” (Despite the fact that the bio at the end of his many Newsmax articles calls him “a regular columnist for [Newsmax.com](http://Newsmax.com).”) So it’s almost like it never even happened! ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/2 "2009-10-05T15:52:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > So it’s almost like it never even happened! And we have always been at war with Eurasia. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/3 "2009-10-05T15:53:37Z")
It’s going to be a long 3.5/7.5 years, isn’t it? I’m kind of grateful the ANC and HIV have effectively declawed the South African military so the threat of coup is at least a laughable concept here. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/4 "2009-10-05T15:55:45Z")
The point is that Newsmax did take it down, and they took it down because it was too extreme, or could have been viewed as such… That’s exactly what I would expect them to do. Yes, there are extreme conservatives out there. So what else is new? They in no way, shape or form represent mainstream right-wing thinking. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/5 "2009-10-05T16:00:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. We’d probably want to call the new military-trained leader something other than “President”, though. “Generalissimo” has a nice ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/6 "2009-10-05T16:12:07Z")
I wonder if we could send some of those skilled, military-trained nation builders to Iraq or Afghanistan. I bet they would come in handy there! ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/7 "2009-10-05T16:12:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Imagine a bloodless coup Just add blood to make it a _real_ coup. Or does Jesus disarm all us Liberals in Perry’s fantasy, because that’s the only way I can see people _not_ getting shot. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/8 "2009-10-05T16:13:52Z")
[Salon’s story on the taking down of the column.](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/09/30/newsmax_statement/index.html) I like this part of Newsmax’s response" > [@](#): > > Newsmax strongly believes in the principles of Constitutional government and would never advocate or insinuate any suggestion of an activity that would undermine our democracy or democratic institutions. Except for when we do. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/9 "2009-10-05T16:24:39Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > The point is that Newsmax did take it down, and they took it down because it was too extreme, or could have been viewed as such.. That’s exactly what I would expect them to do. Yes, there are extreme conservatives out there. So what else is new? They in no way, shape or form represent mainstream right-wing thinking. They took it down because it was getting the wrong attention. Something ‘too extreme’ should have been stopped from being posted. That’s what editors are _for_. As no editor stopped it, I have to assume they kind of didn’t see the issue with it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/10 "2009-10-05T16:34:07Z")
“. . .mainstream right-wing. . .” Am I the only one who sees a problem with those words being together like that? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/11 "2009-10-05T16:38:37Z")
Just more [eliminationism . . .](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533537) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/12 "2009-10-05T16:43:54Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Yes, there are extreme conservatives out there. So what else is new? They in no way, shape or form represent mainstream right-wing thinking. So you’re saying that these extreme people are not true conservatives? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/13 "2009-10-05T16:53:03Z")
No, he’s saying they’re not mainstream conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/14 "2009-10-05T16:53:52Z")
Checking out the columnist’s bio, I see he used to be a Democrat working for LBJ. Distinguished journalism career. International assignments, degrees from first rate academic institutions. Surely this well traveled, well educated man knows the difference between Obama’s policies and real Marxism. He’s spent time in Europe. He has to know that their status quo is well to the left of anything Obama’s advocating. Maybe senility is an issue. Dude appears to be out of his fucking mind. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/15 "2009-10-05T17:00:19Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > The point is that Newsmax did take it down, and they took it down because it was too extreme, or could have been viewed as such.. That’s exactly what I would expect them to do. Yes, there are extreme conservatives out there. So what else is new? They in no way, shape or form represent mainstream right-wing thinking. I’m glad we’ve identified yet another conservative commentator who is not representative of conservatives. I wonder if we’ll ever find one who is. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/16 "2009-10-05T17:15:08Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m glad we’ve identified yet another conservative commentator who is not representative of conservatives. I wonder if we’ll ever find one who is. I wonder if any of these folks are representative of conservatives: > [@](#): > > From a BrainGlutton cite on another thread: > > Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL) said on the House floor: “Last week Democrats released a health care bill which essentially said to America’s seniors: Drop dead.” > > Rep. Steve King (R-IA) said on the House floor: “They’re going to save money by rationing care, getting you in a long line. Places like Canada, United Kingdom, and Europe. People die when they’re in line.” > > Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) said on the House floor: “(The Republican plan will) make sure we bring down the cost of health care for all Americans and that ensures affordable access for all Americans and is pro-life because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government.” > > Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) said on the House floor: “That’s exactly what’s going on in Canada and Great Britain today … and a lot of people are going to die.” > > Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) said on the House floor: “One in five people have to die because they went to socialized medicine! … I would hate to think that among five women, one of 'em is gonna die because we go to socialized care.” ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/17 "2009-10-05T17:49:31Z")
Chrissakes. In light of all those quotes … what exactly is the big fucking deal about what Alan Grayson (D-FL) said? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/18 "2009-10-05T17:51:48Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > No, he’s saying they’re not mainstream conservatives. So who is? I keep hearing RWs protest that W and John McCain are not real conservatives at all. If the likes of John Perry are also out, what segment of the right side of the spectrum does that leave as “mainstream”? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/19 "2009-10-05T17:56:40Z")
Obviously, Newsmax pulled the article because this guy used to be/still could be a member of the Democrat Party. Do we need any more evidence that he’s mentally disturbed? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680/20 "2009-10-05T17:58:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Chrissakes. In light of all those quotes … what exactly is the big fucking deal about what Alan Grayson (D-FL) said? Democrats are _normally_ civil. Impolite remarks by Republicans on the House floor are just dirt against an already dark background. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newsmax-blogger-john-perry-dreams-of-military-coup-against-obama/512680.md?page=2)