# Newt will win big in SC today **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 21, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217 "2012-01-21T13:42:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/21 "2012-01-21T16:00:19Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > But Mitt’s looking like a hollow man all of a sudden. The fact that most GOP voters really don’t want him as the nominee is making a real difference for the first time. I’d still bet on him to win the nomination, on sheer money and organization. But Newt’s gonna make him look bad along the way. Of COURSE he’s going to look bad; he’s a Republican… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/22 "2012-01-21T16:13:57Z")
I, for one, welcome our new amphibious overlord. I’d rather see a Gingrich/Obama debate than a Romney/Obama one, but the party that couldn’t shoot straight needs to shoot itself in the foot first. Not out of the question. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/23 "2012-01-21T16:14:35Z")
> [@CyclopticXander](#): > > No. Civics is like crack to me and today is going to be one helluva fix. At least I’m only sorta considering Limbaugh’s proposed tactic from four years ago for republicans to vote in open democratic primaries just to give their opponents more trouble. Is Alvin Greene running? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/24 "2012-01-21T16:16:52Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He can be Secretary of Defense. And there will be world peace. Gingrich will create a special cabinet level Department of Asskicking just for him. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/25 "2012-01-21T16:40:12Z")
> [@Spiff](#): > > I understand an anti-Romney sentiment, but Newt?!?!! > > With all his baggage? If the wingnuts don’t have any doubts that you’re a true-blue member of their tribe, gay sex is about the only old news that would count as baggage in their minds. > [@](#): > > If he does do well, I wonder what percentage of his voters voted while holding their noses? Probably very few. > [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > My, that is hard to accept. The very idea of Newt as the Prez is creepy. Relax, we’re just talking about one state’s primary. It’s a long way to the nomination. > [@CyclopticXander](#): > > I’m about to go vote. But despite being a Democrat, I’m still struggling with what the Republicans are today. Head vs Heart. > > Head(Pick who would be the least bad president should it ever actually come to that). or heart (Just pee in their pool and vote for someone utterly unelectable in the general). > > Any advice? If a Republican wins the election, the Senate will go Republican as well, and the President will sign whatever the Congress feels like passing. So voting for the one least likely to screw up the country probably only matters if we might get into war. So I’d say vote for the one who’s least likely to beat Obama. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/26 "2012-01-21T16:43:27Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Weird. I don’t think I can really remember as large a shift in polls in as short a time period that wasn’t caused by some specific specific event or relevation. But nothing really’s happened in the last 72 hrs to make Newt look better or Romney worse. Newt’s performance in Monday’s and Thursday’s debates seem to have been the movers here. People were hoping one of the anti-Romneys would look good enough (by their standards) to rally around, and Newt came through. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/27 "2012-01-21T18:47:05Z")
Newt will probably win though the margin will be interesting. IIRC his polling numbers are better in PPP which is automated than the live polls and his ground game is probably not the best. The margin does matter: if he blows out Romney by ten or more points he will have huge momentum. A big win may also knock out Santorum which would help Newt a lot. Florida is the big prize of course. Newt was polling around 50% there in December so a resurgence there is not out of the question. OTOH it’s a big state where advertising and organization will matter. If Newt wins Florida all bets are off and we have a genuine race on our hands. If Romney wins, order will be restored and he will probably plod on to victory. It will be interesting to see if the GOP establishment orchestrates another beatdown like in December. It will be more difficult the second time around but they are terrified of the prospect of Candidate Newt with good reason. ``` Newt's campaign is one of the marvels of modern American politics. He doesn't have organization. He doesn't have money. He doesn't have endorsements. He hasn't held office in more than a decade. His entire campaign has revovled around bashing the media during debates. That's how he became the front-runner in December and that's how he came back in the last week. If Newt wins today, it will be amusing to watch him strutting around like the world-historical titan he thinks he is.:D ``` ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/28 "2012-01-21T20:20:55Z")
I really, really hope all this keeps up until the Convention in August. I want **Republican riots** here in Tampa! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/29 "2012-01-21T20:38:43Z")
It’s amazing that this big a douchebag and victimizer can spin things to make himself look like the aggrieved party. South Carolina Republicans must be the dumbest motherfuckers in the country. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/30 "2012-01-21T20:51:00Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It’s amazing that this big a douchebag and victimizer can spin things to make himself look like the aggrieved party. South Carolina Republicans must be the dumbest motherfuckers in the country. They are, they are, they’re the direct ideological descendants of the dudes who started the Civil War. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/31 "2012-01-21T20:55:36Z")
I would never vote for anyone who would terrify me if they got elected. Why? Because I said there was no way Newt Gingrich would ever get any traction in the Republican nominating process. This goes to show what the hell I know. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/32 "2012-01-21T22:31:06Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] South Carolina Republicans must be the dumbest motherfuckers in the country. [/QUOTE] > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > They are, they are, they’re the direct ideological descendants of the dudes who started the Civil War. There’s a long tradition here: [QUOTE=James Louis Petigru, former Attorney General of South Carolina] “South Carolina is too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.” [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/33 "2012-01-21T23:41:39Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I really, really hope all this keeps up until the Convention in August. I want **Republican riots** here in Tampa! 😃 I hope all roadways out of Tampa will be closed for whatever reason. Keep them republicans penned up; Tampa’s a good place for them. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/34 "2012-01-22T00:02:41Z")
NBC has just projected Gingrich as the winner in South Carolina. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/35 "2012-01-22T00:20:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > NBC has just projected Gingrich as the winner in South Carolina. So now he’s got what? 10 days to build an organization in Florida and for his SuperPAC supporters to flood the state with ads. Ten days ago I would have said (and did say) that Romney would win South Carolina. I was wrong. Romney will win Florida. Well, unless Santorum drops out and Gingrich wails away again in the debates. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/36 "2012-01-22T00:31:11Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Romney will win Florida. Well, unless Santorum drops out and Gingrich wails away again in the debates. CNN is predicting that Santorum will finish third, ahead of Paul. If so, I do not believe that he will drop out. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/37 "2012-01-22T00:41:58Z")
If Newt wins, it means that the Talk Radio wing has crushed all opposition, and the Republican party becomes a subsidiary of Fox News instead of the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/38 "2012-01-22T00:47:53Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > If Newt wins, it means that the Talk Radio wing has crushed all opposition, and the Republican party becomes a subsidiary of Fox News instead of the other way around. I don’t know, Rush was pretty pissed at Newt for going after Mitt’s experience at Bain. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/39 "2012-01-22T00:51:49Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > NBC has just projected Gingrich as the winner in South Carolina. Well, he knew his audience and threw them the racist demagogic red meat he knew they craved from a ruhpublakun candidate. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newt-will-win-big-in-sc-today/610217/40 "2012-01-22T00:51:52Z")
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