# Next Bond movie: Casino Royal **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 4, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437 "2005-02-04T21:57:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/1 "2005-02-04T21:57:57Z")
It appears that the next James Bond movie will be titled [Casino Royal](http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1011908.cms) - after the title of the first of Fleming’s first Bond novel. > [@](#): > > LONDON: Amidst intense speculation as to who would play the new James Bond, the producers of the long-running hit film series announced on Friday that “Casino Royale” would be the next Bond film. > > Director Martin Campbell, responsible for fashioning 007’s comeback in the late 1990s with Pierce Brosnan playing the spy, will be behind the camera for “Casino Royale”, which was author Ian Fleming’s first James Bond novel. Also, > [@](#): > > Brosnan, who has played the British superspy four times, is no longer in the running to reprise the role. > > A long list of potential Bonds has been doing the rounds for months, and actors figuring on it include Dougray Scott, Ewan McGregor, Clive Owen, Orlando Bloom and Hugh Jackman. I’ve found several recent [news stories](http://filmforce.ign.com/bond/articles/584/584261p1.html), where bookies are no longer accepting bets on who will play Bond next, as there’s been a flurry of large bets on [Dougray Scott](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0779084/). > [@](#): > > The odds of Scott reportedly taking over as 007 were at 6-9, with Oscar nominee Clive Owen at 5-2, and Jackman and Ewan McGregor both at 4-1. > > “In the past gambles like this have often been right,” said the bookie’s rep. The bets on Scott began with a woman who claimed “she had some inside information, perhaps she knew he had been to a casting, but she wouldn’t say.” > > Bets were suspended last year after Bond series co-star Colin Salmon was favored to win the role, but that has since been branded a publicity stunt. I think this would be fabulous. Dougray is definitely in my top five personal picks to play Bond. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/2 "2005-02-04T22:02:08Z")
The film definitely has one thing on its side. It could never be worse than the original [Casino Royale.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/3 "2005-02-04T22:08:02Z")
Except the music. Is Herb Alpert still around? ::checks IMDb:: [Yep](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004704/)! ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/4 "2005-02-04T23:44:36Z")
_Casino Royale_ definitely is one of the better books. I hope they keep the dark tone, though I don’t really expect that they will. This is about the right time to move on. Brosnan was good, but we don’t want things to end up like the sad charicature that Moore was in the 80’s. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/5 "2005-02-05T02:19:20Z")
> [@Kaitlyn](#): > > This is about the right time to move on. Brosnan was good, but we don’t want things to end up like the sad charicature that Moore was in the 80’s. Plus, I understand that Casino Royale was one of the first Bond books, so it’d make sense to have a younger Bond in the role. And hey, if Dougray Scott gets hired, then has to drop out, maybe Hugh Jackman can take over… AGAIN! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/6 "2005-02-05T02:35:50Z")
What about **Mickey Rooney** as James Bond? Oops sorry - wrong thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/7 "2005-02-05T02:36:21Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Plus, I understand that Casino Royale was one of the first Bond books, so it’d make sense to have a younger Bond in the role. Yeah, because book to screenplay continuity has been always been a crucial factor in Bond films. :eek: :smack: 😃 I always loved Bond, though _The Saint_ was always more fun; both a better fit for Moore in the programs and Charteris was just a better writer than Fleming (and didn’t take his subject nearly as seriously). But it’s time for Bpnd to toss the hat on the coat tree for the last time. (Hell, how long has it been since he’s even worn a hat?) The writers seem to be completely out of ideas–how many times can one man save the world from successive megalomanics–and are unwilling to venture out and take a risk on a different type of plot because movie-goers have made it clear that they don’t want that. The last decent Bond film was The Living Daylights, IMHO, though Michelle Yeoh single-handedly almost redeamed Tomorrow Never Dies. Brosnan’s certainly not the worst in the role by far, but the character is such an archetype and the dialog so self-aware that he doesn’t really have anything to work with. It’s a pity they mucked up The Saint so bad. It could have been a suitable substitute, but no such luck. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/8 "2005-02-05T03:46:32Z")
Please stop mentioning the Val Kilmer version of The Saint. That film makes my brain hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/9 "2005-02-05T03:52:16Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > Please stop mentioning the Val Kilmer version of The Saint. That film makes my brain hurt. That movie **cries out** to be MSTied. Kilmer alone is enough ham to feed half an army, and watching Elizabeth Shue play a scientist explaining cold fusion … well, you can only shake your head and marvel. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/10 "2005-02-05T03:54:01Z")
I wonder if they’re going to film the scene in which Bond gets strapped to a seatless chair and beaten in the testicles with a cane until he passes out from loss of blood that dripped from his balls. Perhaps they’ll bowlderize that part. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/11 "2005-02-05T04:39:57Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > The film definitely has one thing on its side. It could never be worse than the original [Casino Royale.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/) What if you liked the Original Casino Royale? I’ll admit, it doesn’t make much sense, and some of the beginning parts are tedius, but I’ve always found it quite funny. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/12 "2005-02-05T04:46:28Z")
> [@Nonsuch](#): > > That movie **cries out** to be MSTied. Kilmer alone is enough ham to feed half an army, and watching Elizabeth Shue play a scientist explaining cold fusion … well, you can only shake your head and marvel. I’d watch Elizabeth Shue reading the grain harvest reports. But that movie took itself way too seriously for having such a silly premise. And it had almost nothing to do with Charteris’ character. Sorry, **BobT**. I’ll shut up about it now, and we can pretend it never happened…along with the post-1960’s series’ and TV movies. While we’re at it, let’s also expurgate The Man With The Golden Gun and Diamonds Are Forever. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/13 "2005-02-05T14:06:31Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > The film definitely has one thing on its side. It could never be worse than the original [Casino Royale.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061452/) What about the _original_ original [_Casino Royale_ (1954)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=264712)? I didn’t much care for the acting, but I liked it better than the 1967 version. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/14 "2005-02-05T15:24:26Z")
Who’s going to play Jimmy Bond? Woody Allen is still around buthe might be too old now. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/15 "2005-02-06T21:11:20Z")
There was a rumour that Colin Salmon, aka Charles Robinson, M’s black Chief of Staff, would play 007? Paging **Askia**. We have a link for a **Mr Askia** … [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=56070638&postcount=71](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=56070638&postcount=71) ---
**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/16 "2005-02-07T01:20:55Z")
I’m puzzled why anyone pays much attention to which Fleming book they say the movie will be based on. What difference does it make? All they tend to take from the book is a few very basic superficial elements e.g. name of the villain, some general locations, possibly a couple of basic plot points. Essentially it’s the same movie every time with the same staple ingredients. I’m not complaining, it’s a good formula when it works. But they could say the next one is based on _Anne Of Green Gables_ for all the difference it would make in practical terms. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/17 "2005-02-07T01:29:31Z")
Actually, _On Her Majesty’s Secret Service_ was pretty close to the book. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/18 "2005-02-07T02:45:07Z")
Not Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando Bloom. Not Orlando-“_Hey, I’m Paris! And an elf!_”-freakin’-Bloom. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2005, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-bond-movie-casino-royal/288437/19 "2005-02-07T08:25:01Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5607063&postcount=71](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5607063&postcount=71) Bugger. OK, try that link. Bloody ampersands that look like "8"s, mutter, grumble.