# Next James Bond / Bond Vehicle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 18, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246 "2001-06-18T21:15:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2001, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/21 "2001-06-20T09:28:05Z")

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Some possible Bond suggestions (heck, if they’re considering that _Friends_ nerd, they’ll consider ANYBODY…):

-Liam Neeson  
-Edward Norton  
-Mr. T  
Some suggestions for a possible Bond fifteen years from now (i.e.- these guys would be good if they were a little older):

-Ewan McGregor  
-Joaquin Pheonix  
-The Taco Bell Chihuahua  
Some suggestions for Bond’s next car:

-Chrysler PT Cruiser  
-The New Beetle  
-Isuzu Axiom (complete with Isuzu Joe to play M)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2001, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/22 "2001-06-20T20:05:30Z")

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> _Originally posted by bernse_:  
> Reality check here–
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> Am I the only one here that finds this at least slightly disturbing? I mean, I think the dad from ALF would be a better choice.

I knew I’d get flack from somewhere. 🙂

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> _Originally posted by Coldfire_:  
> And please, guys. No jokes about Americanising 007.

This is not a joke. Eon, which has been producing the serious Bond films since day one, has been considering doing this in order to attract a larger audience. Bruce Willis would certainly attract an audience and seems to be capable of the role. Same for Mel Gibson.

No offense intended, but Bond should always be played by a white guy who can at least **sound** British. Anything else would be a travesty, which could be a good thing. It would allow for some other production company to take over and do it right!

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2001, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/23 "2001-06-20T21:11:52Z")

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Just once, I’d like to see a James Bond film where he acts like an actual spy and does actual spy shit, complete with long-term suspense. I must admit I’ve grown tired of the superspy-action-thriller-all-your-secret-base-are-blowed-up-at-the-end-with-special-gizmo-films. Well, I’m tired of them today, anyway.

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**Author:** ![SouprChckn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@SouprChckn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SouprChckn)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2001, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/24 "2001-06-20T21:36:14Z")

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But that IS James Bond. He’s not an ordinary spy, he’s a special agent. And we all know that special agents carry pen grenades, grappling hook watches and rocket cars. If you wanted to see a real spy movie, you’d prolly end up watching some unsuspecting old lady for 10 years. Not movie material I’m afraid.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/25 "2001-06-21T00:24:29Z")

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Sony was going to do a remake of _ **Never Say Never Again** _ (Called _ **Warhead 2000** _) with Liam Neeson as Bond (and Sean Connory as the villian!), but EON and MGM have managed to get it tied up in court so that it looks like it’ll never happen (there’s a long, complicated story behind this, that I won’t relate). This means that if Liam Neeson wanted to step into Brosnans shoes after he left, EON wouldn’t touch him. (Which is a pity, but its even sadder that we most likely won’t get to see Connory as a Bond villian! ☹ Think of the cool lines he could have!)

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**Author:** ![AETBOND417](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@AETBOND417](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AETBOND417)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/26 "2001-06-21T00:42:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gunslinger \*  
> \*\*Wasn’t Charles I’mnotevengonnatrytospellthat the dad on _The Nanny_?
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> I like the Vanquish, but only if it gets the Mercury Marauder treatment–black interior, gloss black paint, eveything else (grille, chrome, trim, etc) painted flat black. 🙂 \*\*

With black writing on black buttons that flashes in black?  
😃 ☹

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/27 "2001-06-21T02:29:09Z")

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I think they ought to consider the Audi TT as the next Bond car. It`s cute, it`s sporty, and looks like you could hide all kinds of fun gadgets in it. Of course, it would have to be the convertible version of the car- gotta have Bond`s hair blowing in the wind 🙂

Although the Aston Martin that was mentioned is a really sweet looking car too - IMHO, it would have to be a convertible version.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/28 "2001-06-21T02:54:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Johnny L.A. \*  
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> > ::defensively::
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> > Oh yeah?
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> > Well Pierce Brosnan’s Bond wears an Omega.
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> Oh yeah? Well, everyone _knows_ Sean Connery is the _real_ James Bond! 😛
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> (Actually, I’d like to get an Omega – but the Speedmaster Professional aka “Moon Watch”, not the Seamaster.)  
> \*\*

Just for you Johnny L.A.

[http://www.hmss.com/firstbond/jbchoice/](http://www.hmss.com/firstbond/jbchoice/)

“Here I should state that since my love for the Fleming books is boundless, I will always think of the Rolex as the true timepiece of 007-at least in the era in which the literary Bond operated, the fifties and sixties. I was initially scandalized at hearing Brosnan would wear an Omega in GoldenEye. I viewed it as yet another sellout to product placement. How dare they? Bond wore a Rolex “Sub” as recently as Licence To Kill, and we escaped all these damn signs in the jewelry stores then!”

…and pages more on the Omega vs Rolex issues

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/29 "2001-06-21T03:03:44Z")

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More info than you will ever need about the history of James Bond’s horology and Q’s modifications.  
[http://www.hmss.com/qbranch/0202.htm](http://www.hmss.com/qbranch/0202.htm)

"When James Bond is on a mission, time is never on his side. That’s not the right part of his body to find it.  
And in times of danger, James Bond never has time on his hands. Actually, it’s a little farther up his arm.

Just what the heck am I talking about?

Why, wristwatches, naturally.

In the regular world they’re easily overlooked. They peek out unobtrusively from under a shirt cuff. Nevertheless, when the subject is 007, these little objects have garnered a surprisingly large amount of attention. “Oh yeah?” says skeptical you. “Read on,” say I. "

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/30 "2001-06-21T10:20:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mnemosyne \*  
> **I think they ought to consider the Audi TT as the next Bond car. It`s cute, it`s sporty, and looks like you could hide all kinds of fun gadgets in it. Of course, it would have to be the convertible version of the car- gotta have Bond`s hair blowing in the wind 🙂**

A TT, sporty? I guess that’s why Audi [had to recall the first version](http://www.epinions.com/auto-review-704A-C5FAB2F-382AAE76-prod1), after 200 crashes, and two people who were killed in it?  
Nope, with all due respect, that ain’t a sportscar. That’s a VW Golf with a different bodywork. The interior’s nice, though. If you’re somewhere under 5 feet tall.

But I guess few German carmakers will be lining up to provide Bond with a set of wheels. BMW was severely pissed off when the Bond producers favoured the Vanquish because of its British heritage.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/31 "2001-06-21T12:51:42Z")

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> A TT, sporty?.. Nope, with all due respect, that ain’t a sportscar. That’s a VW Golf with a different bodywork.

It’s also a New Beetle with different bodywork. They share the same planform. I think the Audi has a stiffer suspension though.

Thanks for the link, **astro**. On a [subsequent page](http://members.aol.com/hmssfile/jbchoice/smprovssub.htm) the author compares the Submariner to the Seamaster. He says that if Fleming were alive that he (Fleming) would have no problem with Bond wearing an Omega. The article seems well thought-out, but there is something I disagree with:

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> If Rolex was conspicuous consumption then, it is ten times conspicuous now.

I don’t think so. Only two people have noticed my GMT II, and one of them is a friend. That suits me fine. I just wanted a nice watch that I didn’t have to put a battery in every two years. A guy at work wears a Casio copy of a Sub, and I saw a Seiko copy of an Oyster Day-Date “President” at Costco. With so many knock-offs in the world, I seriously doubt anyone notices when someone wears a Rolex. When was the last time you noticed someone’s watch, regardless of the brand? (BTW: As the webpage author pointed out, Rolexes are “in the middle of the pack in high-end Swiss watches”. Definitely middle-class, IMO.)

Bond didn’t always wear a Sub. In the late-'70s he wore Seiko digital watches – and consipcuosly drove by large Seiko advertising billboards. (And since **AETBOND417** already made a _Hitchhiker’s Guide_ reference… “In the 1970s they were so amazingly primitive that they thought digital watches are a pretty neat idea…”)

As for the car, I favour the Aston Martin. James Bond is just so _British_ that he doesn’t look right in a BMW. And an Audi is just a gussied-up Volkswagen. (Nothing wrong with Volkswagens, or Porsches for that matter; I just think Bond should drive a British car.)

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**Author:** ![SouprChckn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@SouprChckn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SouprChckn)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/32 "2001-06-22T00:01:36Z")

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Probably doesn’t help that BMW didn’t come out with any eye catching new cars besides the M3 of late. Seeing Tommorow Never Dies and Bond driving a sedan didn’t seem quite right. Goldeneye had the Z3 and The World is not Enough had the Z8.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-james-bond-bond-vehicle/69246/33 "2001-06-22T00:51:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SouprChckn \*  
> \*\*If you wanted to see a real spy movie, you’d prolly end up watching some unsuspecting old lady for 10 years. Not movie material I’m afraid. \*\*

What spies REALLY do on the [job.](http://www.moviefone.com/features/feature.adp?_dci_s_p=criticsisland&_dci_p_c=0&_dci_s_b=newmoviefone&_dci_s_c=national&id=991259224%2c0&_dci_e_t=p&_dci_l_n=mflnk%2efeatures%2efeature%2eid%2d991259224%2c0&_dci_tm=993170785&_dci_l_a=12161&_dci_p_n=mf%5falso4&_dci_l_c=0&_dci_p_a=12161&_dci_p_b=mf%5fl1%2ecommunity%2ecriticsisland) (The article was inspired by the movie _Swordfish_.) Judging by this, Tom Clancy’s Jack Ryan novels are more realistic.

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