# Next stop Dachau

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2006, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514 "2006-05-20T08:27:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/1 "2006-05-20T08:27:01Z")

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[http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=398274b5-9210-43e4-ba59-fa24f4c66ad4&k=28534](http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=398274b5-9210-43e4-ba59-fa24f4c66ad4&k=28534)

How bloody stupid can you get? Don’t these people study history?

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/2 "2006-05-20T08:32:51Z")

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Exactly the result the hoaxers aimed for.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/3 "2006-05-20T08:38:51Z")

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And already being discussed: [Iran proposes badges for Non-muslims - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=372314)

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/4 "2006-05-20T12:33:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Quartz]  
Don’t these people study history?  
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Not sure, but the guy who wrote the original article sure never studied journalism.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/5 "2006-05-20T14:43:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Tapioca Dextrin]  
Not sure, but the guy who wrote the original article sure never studied journalism.  
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Have you looked at [Amir Taheri](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri)’s bio?

> [@](#):
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> He was editor-in-chief of “Jeune Afrique” and Middle East editor for the London Sunday Times. He has written for the Daily Times, The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Daily Mail and other leading British publications.  
> Between 1972 and 1979 he was executive editor-in-chief of Kayhan, Iran’s main daily newspaper.  
> He has been a columnist for the pan-Arab daily “Asharq Alawsat” and its sister publication Arab News, International Herald Tribune,The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Newsday, and The Washington Post.  
> He was also an editorial writer for the German daily Die Welt and has written for Der Spiegel, Die Zeit and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in Germany, La Repubblica in Italy, L’Express, Politique Internationale and Le Nouvel Observateur in France, and El Mundo in Spain.

This is not some "Tony Snow’ you’re talking about. Even the US Department of State [uses Taheri’s stuff](http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2003&m=July&x=20030718155752nosnhojb0.3149988&t=usinfo/wf-latest.html)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/6 "2006-05-20T15:17:17Z")

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[Quote=Squink]  
This is not some "Tony Snow’ you’re talking about. Even the US Department of State uses Taheri’s stuff.  
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This indeed appears to be correct. Regardless of Mr. Taheri’s credentials, however, there is no question that he is member of an organization promoting a (western) neo-conservative viewpoint, that the Iranian government categorically denies his claim, that other interested parties have attempted to confirm it but cannot, that the publication in which the article first appeared has issued a retraction, and that therefore the story, at the moment, appears to be false.

If this issue has indeed been debated as recently as Monday, in open session the Majlis, it should be perfectly easy for independent third parties to determine whether the subject of color-coding of people of different religious faiths had been discussed.

I’ll just mention, however, that it does appear the Majlis is serious about imposing a highly restrictive national dress code for all Iranians. That’s bizarre enough, in my view, without all the other stuff, and handily beats our periodic attempts to ban flag-burning on the scale of legislative silliness.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/7 "2006-05-20T15:57:20Z")

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The story is false. It never happened, according to the latest reports.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/8 "2006-05-20T16:14:29Z")

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[QUOTE=SteveG1]  
The story is false. It never happened, according to the latest reports.  
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Yup, Taheri struck his blow for war, and now his friends’ll work to minimize the consequences for him while continuing to slag Iran with whatever they can.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/9 "2006-05-20T18:22:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Yup, Taheri struck his blow for war, and now his friends’ll work to minimize the consequences for him while continuing to slag Iran with whatever they can.  
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And everyone will conveniently forget that it was retracted. Then, later on, it will be dredged up to justify another preemptive “kill for peace” misadventure.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/10 "2006-05-20T18:24:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Even the US Department of State [uses Taheri’s stuff](http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2003&m=July&x=20030718155752nosnhojb0.3149988&t=usinfo/wf-latest.html)  
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What a fscinating article.

> [@](#):
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> most Iraqis regret the ancient regime, and are ready to kill and die to expel their liberators.Sorry, guys, this is not the case…  
> …For the first time in almost 50 years there are also no political prisoners, no executions, no torture and no limit on freedom of expression.

That guy sure knows what he’s talking about. Or at least which party line he’s being paid to spin. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/11 "2006-05-20T18:43:37Z")

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Thoroughly in keeping with the _Post’s_ usual journalistic standards.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2006, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/12 "2006-05-21T12:23:51Z")

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[QUOTE=matt\_mcl]  
Thoroughly in keeping with the _Post’s_ usual journalistic standards.  
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I read the article and winced…not because of any imminent threat to our freedoms or safety, but because it is a horrid example of tabloid journalism (whatever country it comes from) at it’s very _best_.

If only people would stop READING that shit, it might go away, right? RIGHT??

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-stop-dachau/357514/13 "2006-05-31T20:04:56Z")

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[Taheri Goes to the white house, advises on policy:](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060530-4.html)

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> Q Can you give us a readout on the President’s meeting this morning with the Iraq experts?
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> MR. SNOW: Yes. Oh, my goodness, I forgot to bring the list. But actually – do you have the list, Fred? Yes, it was an interesting meeting. What you ended up having was – I’ve got all the names but one written down here. We had Wayne Downing, Barry McCaffrey, Michael Vickers, Amir Taheri…
