# Next up: Indiana and North Carolina **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 23, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509 "2008-04-23T05:15:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/181 "2008-05-07T01:29:00Z")
With 71% in, lead’s down to 4.7% and 41,500 votes! Still no Gary - and what’s in Tippecanoe County? It’s going Obama in a big way. Sweet! ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/182 "2008-05-07T01:31:23Z")
NCs lead is down to 18% though, i was hoping for over 20 with how things looked at first. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/183 "2008-05-07T01:32:29Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Still no Gary - and what’s in Tippecanoe County? It’s going Obama in a big way. Sweet! [/QUOTE] Purdue University ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/184 "2008-05-07T01:32:46Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] LMAO! [/QUOTE] I don’t know why that’s funny… 5.9 rounds up to 10, ya know? I really should be headed out of town instead of paying attention to the results as they come in… looks like I’ll have to tune in to terrestrial radio since Alpine doesn’t let me listen to the triple digit Sirius stations for some reason… ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/185 "2008-05-07T01:33:21Z")
[QUOTE=DigitalC] NCs lead is down to 18% though, i was hoping for over 20 with how things looked at first. [/QUOTE] Extrapolating from the exit polls, it looks like Obama should land a 15-16% win when the night is through. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/186 "2008-05-07T01:33:36Z")
[QUOTE=DigitalC] NCs lead is down to 18% though, i was hoping for over 20 with how things looked at first. [/QUOTE] Only 45% of precincts in, though. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/187 "2008-05-07T01:34:21Z")
[QUOTE=DigitalC] NCs lead is down to 18% though, i was hoping for over 20 with how things looked at first. [/QUOTE] Once they get more results in from Charlotte, that ought to bump it up again. Still quite a few precincts out in Wake and Durham counties, too. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/188 "2008-05-07T01:36:11Z")
Down to 4% with the heavily populated areas expected to go heavy to Obama still coming in. St Joseph going for Obama is big. It will be close but this may very well be a straight up Obama twofer. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/189 "2008-05-07T01:42:29Z")
[QUOTE=DSeid] Down to 4% with the heavily populated areas expected to go heavy to Obama still coming in. St Joseph going for Obama is big. It will be close but this may very well be a straight up Obama twofer. [/QUOTE] Gad I hope so. Listening to CNN they mentioned that HRC lost support among black voters in North Carolina. Well, she always loses to that constituency but she lost by more than she generally has in previous elections. I wonder if that is a backlash to the Wright thing (no idea…just a guess). ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/190 "2008-05-07T01:44:14Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] The change in tone of the coverage from Pennsylvania to today is striking. CNN, MSNBC and FOX all did pieces on how tenuous Clinton’s arguments are. Even though her “plan” was just as fragile 2 weeks ago. [/QUOTE] It’s a feeling like you’ve been screaming at people for the past several weeks, no one’s been listening, and tonight you got heard for the first time. Fucking bastard pundits — they’re more like politicians than politicians are. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/191 "2008-05-07T01:47:29Z")
[QUOTE=Santo Rugger] I don’t know why that’s funny… 5.9 rounds up to 10, ya know? [/QUOTE] And if she won IN by 4.51%, well, 4.51 rounds up to 5, and 5 rounds up to 10…double digits! ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/192 "2008-05-07T01:54:30Z")
Don’t get excited, math-boy, or I’ll link you to xkcd and you’ll be distracted all night long (it’s what I’m doing). Gotta admit…4% without most of the NW counties (Chicago-lite) reporting in makes this one a nail-biter. Will he do it? Tune in sometime tonight, bat-fans! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/193 "2008-05-07T01:59:24Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] And if she won IN by 4.51%, well, 4.51 rounds up to 5, and 5 rounds up to 10…double digits! [/QUOTE] Well…maybe Clinton somehow infected math in the rest of the universe. The current [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/) page has Clinton ahead in Indiana by 4% in votes. However they list her as having 15 delegates to Obama’s 11. My math makes that a 26.7% difference. No, I am not on conspiracy theories here. I am sure it is all as it should be near as they can tell but still…how does that work? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/194 "2008-05-07T02:00:47Z")
[QUOTE=Jonathan Chance] Don’t get excited, math-boy, or I’ll link you to xkcd and you’ll be distracted all night long (it’s what I’m doing). [/quote] I’ll save you the trouble - [here’s my all-time favorite](http://xkcd.com/123/), and that’s saying a great deal. > [@](#): > > Gotta admit…4% without most of the NW counties (Chicago-lite) reporting in makes this one a nail-biter. Will he do it? Tune in sometime tonight, bat-fans! _Gary Indi **an** a, Gary **In** diana, not Lousiana, Paris France, New York, or Rome, but **Ga** ry Indiana, Gary **In** diana, Gary Indi **an** a, my home, sweet home!_ ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/195 "2008-05-07T02:00:54Z")
[QUOTE=Whack-a-Mole] ..how does that work? [/QUOTE] That isn’t a predicted split of final delegates. It is an initial split of district-level delegates based on the results in particular congressional districts. Naturally, the more rural congressional districts can be tabulated before the bigger ones. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/196 "2008-05-07T02:05:27Z")
Indiana is a nailbiter to Hillary at least. I was wondering why nobody’s declaring Hillary the winner yet until I looked at the map: as of this writing (approximately 9 p.m. cst) Hillary leads 52% to 47% with 80% of counties reporting, **BUT** one of the counties **NOT** reporting (at all) is [Lake County](http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=05000US18089&-qr_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_DP5&-ds_name=ACS_2006_EST_G00_&-_lang=en&-_sse=on), which is one of Indiana’s largest counties populationwise and with their single largest number of registered black voters (25% of the population there is black and the total pop is just under 500,000). It’s conceivable Obama could pull this off. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/197 "2008-05-07T02:06:02Z")
MSNBC just said that Lake County is saying not to expect numbers before 11:00pm. I assume CST since that’s where they are. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/198 "2008-05-07T02:06:35Z")
And which is basically Little Chicago. Obama has Lake wrapped up. The question is if that’s enough to push him over her. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/199 "2008-05-07T02:06:40Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] _Gary Indi **an** a, Gary **In** diana, not Lousiana, Paris France, New York, or Rome, but **Ga** ry Indiana, Gary **In** diana, Gary Indi **an** a, my home, sweet home!_ [/QUOTE] “Get your kicks on Interstate 80” just doesn’t have that proper ring, does it? I want my Gary returns! And, speaking as a man born in Chicago, I admit that wanting ANYTHING from Gary is a weird, WEIRD feeling. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509/200 "2008-05-07T02:10:13Z")
[QUOTE=Jophiel] MSNBC just said that Lake County is saying not to expect numbers before 11:00pm. I assume CST since that’s where they are. [/QUOTE] No, EDT. MSNBC was expecting numbers coming in from Lake County about 10 minutes ago (of when I posted this) about 10 minutes before 10 PM EDT. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/next-up-indiana-and-north-carolina/446509.md?page=11)