# NFC East 2006 - 2007 \[NFL\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 30, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814 "2006-08-30T18:58:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/101 "2006-10-18T12:57:49Z")
Guess I should finish that thought… Anyway, that might just be the soreness talking. I think Tiki is too much a competitor to hang it up now, when he is at the top of his game and _the_ game. However, he’s right to start considering what he’ll be doing in the very near future. My prediction: he’s back next season and very likely the season after. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/102 "2006-10-23T05:33:17Z")
[QUOTE=Bearflag70] PHI @ TB (TB beat Cincy today, so TB could beat Philly) WAS @ IND (Ind, coming off a bye, will blow Was out) NYG @ DAL (Which Dal team will show up? Should be a Dal win at home and Dal takes the lead in the East!) [/QUOTE] WOO-HOO! (Awaits the trifecta.) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/103 "2006-10-23T05:52:36Z")
Funny ranting from a Redskins fan: Early Vegas Line Bye Week @ Washington (+7) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/104 "2006-10-23T14:08:33Z")
[QUOTE=Bearflag70] WOO-HOO! (Awaits the trifecta.) [/QUOTE] Funny, I was going to say that. However, I think our opinions on what constitutes a trifecta disagree. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/105 "2006-10-23T14:17:31Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] Funny, I was going to say that. However, I think our opinions on what constitutes a trifecta disagree. [/QUOTE] This will be the perfect weekend if the Tuna loses tonight. ---
**Author:** ![jimmmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@jimmmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmmy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/106 "2006-10-23T14:21:05Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] Funny ranting from a Redskins fan: Early Vegas Line Bye Week @ Washington (+7) [/QUOTE] LOL Damn. I hope we get to play spoiler for some of you mugs - here’s hoping! Damn. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/107 "2006-10-23T15:34:37Z")
[QUOTE=jimmmy] I hope we get to play spoiler for some of you mugs - here’s hoping! [/QUOTE] The only way that’s happening is if you run across Michael Strahan and tell him…Rosebug was a sled, the chick in _The Crying Game_ was actually a dude, and Bruce Willis was dead the entire time. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/108 "2006-10-23T18:21:33Z")
Be nice, **Hal**. All right-minded NFC East fans sincerely hope that the Redskins beat the Cowboys and the Iggles in their upcoming games. It will relieve some of the pressure, allowing the **Giants** to only take 5 of 6 East games. Heck, if Oakland can win a game and the Texans can beat the Jaguars, the **Giants** _might_ be able to lose an NFC East match. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/109 "2006-10-23T18:33:54Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] Heck, if Oakland can win a game and the Texans can beat the Jaguars, the **Giants** _might_ be able to lose an NFC East match. [/QUOTE] See, the planets have lined up for our state this week, what with the Longhorns winning, Tampa Bay drilling a 62 with :04 to down Philly, Indy rolling over the Skinnys and the Texans dropping Jack in convincing fashion. Sorry Giants but the Cowboys are the final piece of the planetary puzzel. It’s a cosmic guarantee. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/110 "2006-10-23T19:05:07Z")
Tampa Bay won that game specifically for the **Giants**. You can’t count that. The kicker, Matt Bryant - ex-Giant. And did you notice the name of the Buccaneer with the two touchdowns? Do you think he really was out there to help the Cowboys? He scored those for his twin. Recheck your telescope, **lieu**. That’s not a planet, that’s a smudge. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/111 "2006-10-23T20:25:46Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] The kicker, Matt Bryant - ex-Giant. [/QUOTE] Heh…all I could think when that game winner went through was “I’d love that you put the screws to those Philly Scumbirds, but damnit, why couldn’t you put on performances like that when you were wearing blue???” ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/112 "2006-10-24T03:14:12Z")
Romo’s looking good. ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/113 "2006-10-24T03:27:30Z")
Not so much there. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/114 "2006-10-24T03:43:25Z")
[QUOTE=flood] Not so much there. [/QUOTE] How about now? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/115 "2006-10-24T03:46:06Z")
Yeah, there either. ---
**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/116 "2006-10-24T03:47:46Z")
Better, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/117 "2006-10-24T03:56:10Z")
\*\*Giants \*\* 4-3 .571 leading on Tie Breakers of Divisional Wins and Head to Head Philadelphia 4-3 .571 Dallas 3-3 .500 Washington 2-5 .286 36-22 \*\*Giants \*\*in a strange but fun game with a great result. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/118 "2006-10-24T05:19:31Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] \*\*Giants \*\* 4-3 .571 leading on Tie Breakers of Divisional Wins and Head to Head Philadelphia 4-3 .571 Dallas 3-3 .500 Washington 2-5 .286 36-22 \*\*Giants \*\*in a strange but fun game with a great result. [/QUOTE] The Giants are actually 4-2, not 4-3. They are also 3-0 in the division, two of those on the road. So far the Colts and Redskins games are the only home games the Giants have played, while going to Philadelphia, Seattle, Atlanta and Dallas. So the murderer’s row beginning of the schedule is now over, having played 6 tough teams (I’m throwing the Redskins a bone here) with four of them on the road to start the season. Coming out of that stretch 4-2 is a remarkable achievement. Even better is that one of the two losses (to Seattle) is _not_ a common game, so that won’t count against Big Blue in divisional tiebreakers. The other loss (to the Colts) won’t count against Wildcard tiebreakers. If you had to pick two games to lose, those were the ideal two to pick. The only down note is that Lavar is done for the season. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/119 "2006-10-24T06:00:18Z")
Giants played pretty well. Dallas played like crap. Good game. I was expecting Romo in the second half. Despite the interceptions, he probably offers the best hope for Dallas. Give him a chance to settle in as a starter, and he should do well. Although starting him half way through a Monday night division game trailing at halftime just before heading into a 3 game road trip is not the best scenario. I don’t care for one of Parcells’ post-game comments on Romo. A reporter asked something about whether Romo will take some time to play well. Bill said that he hopes not because Romo has been in Dallas for 4 years. Yes, Bill, but Romo has never thrown a real NFL pass until last week. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2006, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814/120 "2006-10-24T06:49:07Z")
[QUOTE=Bearflag70] I don’t care for one of Parcells’ post-game comments on Romo. A reporter asked something about whether Romo will take some time to play well. Bill said that he hopes not because Romo has been in Dallas for 4 years. Yes, Bill, but Romo has never thrown a real NFL pass until last week. [/QUOTE] I agree with Parcells. It appears that most QBs who ride the pine for a couple years avoid most of the mistakes that even highly touted rookies make. Chad Pennington is the poster boy for this phenomenon, who rode the bench for two years, and then when he finally got in a game he played the rest of the season and posted the highest passer rating in the league. Phillip Rivers looks to be doing the same thing in San Diego this year. Marc Bulger is another example (from the same draft as Pennington) but is even more compelling because he was a late round draft pick. Basically, my hypothesis is that once you’ve been through two offseasons as a backup, if you have any potential as a starter it will show itself very quickly. Can anyone think of any counter-examples to disprove this idea? Are there any examples of the following type of quarterback?[ul][li]Rode the bench for at least two full seasons[/li][li]Struggled like a rookie when he finally got a starting job[/li][\*]Later in his career, even if he went to a different team, performed well as a starter[/ul] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2006-2007-nfl/370814.md?page=7)