# NFC East 2008

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 3, 2008, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891 "2008-09-03T17:23:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/141 "2008-10-06T01:11:41Z")

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Well this was another good day for the \*\*Giants \*\*and the NFC east for that matter. The \*\*Giants \*\* completely outplayed a decent team. Offense, Defense and especially Coaching. The O-Line was superb again. Seattle never got going at all. I think the most impressive part of the \*\*Giants \*\* game is that it was done without Plaxico Burress. The defense shut down Seattle’s Rushing game which has been very good.

Skin’s beat the Eagles in a close one and Dallas beat the Bengals only 31-22.

The \*\*Giants \*\* are averaging 32 points per game and giving up only 12. You got to love it. Dallas is at 30 & 22.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/142 "2008-10-06T16:50:36Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> Look at that anti-Dallas media bias. Washington beat Dallas at Texas Stadium and now these media elites think Washington is somehow “better” than Dallas.
> 
> 😉

Same thing seems to be happening in Philly, too. Those damn sports reporters with their pro-Redskins stance.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/143 "2008-10-06T17:44:08Z")

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Perhaps it’s a _bit_ too early to start with kind of horn-tooting, but what the hell…toot toot!

> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> 1-4: Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, Eagles. Bank it.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/144 "2008-10-06T18:37:33Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Well this was another good day for the \*\*Giants \*\*and the NFC east for that matter. The \*\*Giants \*\* completely outplayed a decent team. Offense, Defense and especially Coaching. The O-Line was superb again. Seattle never got going at all. I think the most impressive part of the \*\*Giants \*\* game is that it was done without Plaxico Burress. The defense shut down Seattle’s Rushing game which has been very good.
> 
> Skin’s beat the Eagles in a close one and Dallas beat the Bengals only 31-22.
> 
> The \*\*Giants \*\* are averaging 32 points per game and giving up only 12. You got to love it. Dallas is at 30 & 22.

We’re we watching the same game?

First, the **GIANTS** got worse quarter over quarter on offense. 14 points, 13 points, 10 points, and 7 points. Poor conditioning. They couldn’t maintain their pace and finished weak.

Second, Jeff Feagles punted for a touchback. What’s up with that?

Third, they had a kickoff out of bounds and several to approximately the 10-yard line.

Lastly, kickoff returns (all three) were nothing spectacular. One wasn’t even run out.

The **GIANTS** were lucky to eke out a victory.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/145 "2008-10-07T16:52:58Z")

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This thread sure hasn’t been getting a lot of attention this week. The Cowboys almost give one up to the Bengals and the Eagles (at least according to Donovan McNabb), shouldn’t have lost to the Redskins. But they did.

I know I’m not the only Redskins fan here. Where are you all? Come on out of hiding! There just may be some light at the end of the tunnel this year! Let’s celebrate!

[Corny Zorny]  
Hip hip hooray!  
Hip hip hooray!  
Hip hip hooray!  
[/CZ]

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/146 "2008-10-07T18:03:37Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> This thread sure hasn’t been getting a lot of attention this week. The Cowboys almost give one up to the Bengals and the Eagles (at least according to Donovan McNabb), shouldn’t have lost to the Redskins. But they did.

(not a Skins fan)

I am still totally unable to figure out how the Jason Campbell of the last two (three?) seasons and the first game of this year is related to the Jason Campbell of weeks 2-5. Totally does not compute.

I mean, they look alike- they might be cousins, or something- but they’re clearly not the same person. Why isn’t the NFL investigating these shenanigans?

Also, is Santana Moss in a contract year or something?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/147 "2008-10-07T22:03:33Z")

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After Week 5:

ESPN:  
1 - Giants (1)  
3 - Redskins (6)  
4 - Cowboys (3)  
12 - Eagles (9)

USA Today  
1 - Giants (1)  
3 - Cowboys (4)  
4 - Redskins (5)  
12 - Eagles (12)

Yahoo Sports  
1 - Giants (1)  
3 - Redskins (4)  
5 - Cowboys (5)  
18 - Eagles (14)

CBS Sportsline:  
1 - Giants (1)  
3 - Redskins (4)  
4 - Cowboys (5)  
19 - Eagles (14)

Sporting News  
1 - Giants (2)  
3 - Redskins (4)  
5 - Cowboys (5)  
16 - Eagles (16)

Fox:  
1 - Giants (1)  
2 - Redskins (2)  
5- Cowboys (3)  
13 - Eagles (12)

Man, all those #1 rankings are pretty, aren’t they? I’ll wager that **Bearflag** just bought five subscriptions to _USA Today_, for their non-media-elite outlook. 😉

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/148 "2008-10-07T23:03:35Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> This thread sure hasn’t been getting a lot of attention this week. The Cowboys almost give one up to the Bengals and the Eagles (at least according to Donovan McNabb), shouldn’t have lost to the Redskins. But they did.
> 
> I know I’m not the only Redskins fan here. Where are you all? Come on out of hiding! There just may be some light at the end of the tunnel this year! Let’s celebrate!
> 
> [Corny Zorny]  
> Hip hip hooray!  
> Hip hip hooray!  
> Hip hip hooray!  
> [/CZ]

I still have a faint pulse of love for the Foreskins…I grew up a fan of them during George Allen and loved them all the way up until 1992…and then I became a Bengals fan, because I wanted to see how the other half lived. Some of my best football memories revolve around Gibbs, Monk, Clark, Riggo, Hogs, Manley, Mann, Green, Joe Washington, Wilbur Marshall, etc, etc, etc.

\<\<sigh\>\>

Fucking Giants and Cowboys…we had you RIGHT THERE and blew it both times. Made ya sweat though. Admit it.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/149 "2008-10-08T04:59:14Z")

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[Football Outsiders](http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/week-5-dvoa-ratings-3):

1 - Giants (2)  
3 - Eagles (3)  
5 - Redskins (7)  
7 - Cowboys (8)

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/150 "2008-10-08T10:29:30Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> [Football Outsiders](http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/week-5-dvoa-ratings-3):
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> 1 - Giants (2)  
> 3 - Eagles (3)  
> 5 - Redskins (7)  
> 7 - Cowboys (8)

The dour Giants fans will be thrilled to see those rankings list the Giants as having the easiest schedule in the league so far, and the hardest schedule in the league going forward.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/151 "2008-10-08T14:36:32Z")

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Yeah, it’s always something.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/152 "2008-10-12T22:15:54Z")

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Redskins were upset by the Rams of all teams. Wow.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/153 "2008-10-12T22:19:40Z")

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Yeah, what the heck happened there?

As I type this, the Eagles are trailing the 49ers, and the Cowboys are nursing a 14-7 lead over the Cardinals.

NFC West in the house!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/154 "2008-10-13T00:08:42Z")

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This is a good start to the weekend when Dallas and Washington both choke.

Now we just need to take care of business against a team that is mouthing off about Jacobs. I am looking forward to it.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/155 "2008-10-13T00:23:50Z")

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I can’t wait to watch TO tear the Cowboys apart.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/156 "2008-10-13T01:13:15Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Yeah, what the heck happened there?
> 
> As I type this, the Eagles are trailing the 49ers, and the Cowboys are nursing a 14-7 lead over the Cardinals.
> 
> NFC West in the house!

Bad playcalling. They tried to get too West Coast-y in the first half. Portis was averaging 5 yards per carry and yet they threw it 20 times and ran it 12 times.

Same thing the Ravens did, except in the Ravens’ case it was utterly inexplicable. At least Campbell has been playing well; Flacco has looking horrible (well, he’s looked like a rookie), and the Colts’ defense is built to stop the pass and give up yards on the ground.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/157 "2008-10-13T18:47:32Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I can’t wait to watch TO tear the Cowboys apart.

Maybe he started by [busting his QB’s finger](http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081011/en_movies_eo/63204)?

> [@](#):
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> One day after suffering a painful loss to the Arizona Cardinals, the Dallas Cowboys lost Tony Romo for a month.
> 
> Romo has a fractured pinkie finger on his throwing hand, an injury that will sideline the Pro Bowl quarterback for four weeks.

Let me state for the record: Tony, please get better soon. The Cowboys will be heading to Giants Stadium in Week 9, and they will get punched right in mouth. When they do, I don’t want to hear all the Cowboys fans whining “Ohhh, but it’s only because we had Brad Johnson at QB…if we’d have had Romo, we’ve have romped all over you”. They will, of course, conviently ignore their defense giving up 48 points that week, but hey, can’t expect much from them now, can you?

So please, Tony, please get all healed up right-quick, won’t you?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/158 "2008-10-13T18:58:43Z")

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I agree but in the meantime if this unfortunate pinkie injury should cost Dallas another game or two, I will not shed many tears. But I agree, I want to beat Dallas and I want then to have no excuses, though in the end I will just take a win and be happy enough.

Jim

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/159 "2008-10-14T03:22:04Z")

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Heh, perhaps the Giant fans should worry about their own WR and QB. Eli is putting on a clinic today on how to throw INTs.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2008/461891/160 "2008-10-14T04:03:03Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Heh, perhaps the Giant fans should worry about their own WR and QB. Eli is putting on a clinic today on how to throw INTs.

Good to have the old Eli back, even if it’s curtains for my fantasy team. This whole “which Manning is better” thing was starting to fuck up my world.

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