# NFC East 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 11, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382 "2011-08-11T22:30:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/281 "2011-12-21T04:37:24Z")

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I remember all the naysayers on draft day, including footballoutsiders. Nice call, that one. After a quick search, we can all remember:

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/18):
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> I definitely don’t want Jason Pierre-Paul, Dez Bryant, or Bruce Campbell.

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/36):
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> 1. Jason Pierre-Paul will have about as many sacks in his NFL career as he had in his one USF season. George Selvie will have a better NFL career.

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/124):
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> 15 (15) Giants - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
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> Holy bust, Batman! Allow me to introduce you to [SackSEER](http://footballoutsiders.com/nfl-draft/2010/introducing-sackseer), everybody.

> [@FootballOutsiders](#):
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> Jason Pierre-Paul, University of South Florida  
> Vertical: 30.5", Short Shuttle: 4.67, SRAM: 0.44, Missed Games: 26  
> Projection: 3.8 Sacks through Year 5

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/248):
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> Chatting with my friend about who the Giants might get as their pick was approaching, I said, “really, though, as long as they don’t take Pierre-Paul I’ll be fine with it.” Ugh. The guy started 7 games, and had 6.5 career sacks. This is like when they drafted Sinorice Moss in the 2nd Round despite the fact that he wasn’t, you know, good at college football.

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/643):
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> Pierre Paul is Vernon Gholston without the productivity […] JPP will be a bust

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/662):
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> Still thinking about the Giants’ Pierre-Paul pick.
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> Question: among 1st Round picks whose college football accomplishments were similarly negligible, what would the list of success stories look like? How about if it’s 1st and 2nd Round picks? I barely follow college football, so every year when draft time rolls around I have to play catch-up just to know a little bit about what’s going on.

> [@2010 NFL Draft Thread: April 22nd - 24th](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2010-nfl-draft-thread-april-22nd-24th/536904/663):
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> I haven’t a clue, but from what I’ve seen linked to in SDMB threads, if he’s successful he’ll be the first.
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> I’m choosing to be optimistic. If you’re going to do a DE apprenticeship, the Giants are one of the better places to do it. If they can’t bring the guy along, nobody can.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/282 "2011-12-21T14:29:07Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I definitely don’t want Jason Pierre-Paul, Dez Bryant, or Bruce Campbell.

One of these things is not like the others…

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/283 "2011-12-31T05:18:13Z")

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So, anyone have the over/under on how many snaps Romo gets before he’s knocked out of the game this week?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/284 "2012-01-01T22:01:21Z")

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Just posted by a friend of mine who is a TSA agent:

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> So it was almost time for us to go home at work today, and the last passenger was coming through the checkpoint… He had a Cowboys shirt on. I told him “Now, when you go through the metal detector, you have to say the password. And that’s ‘Go Giants.’” We all got a pretty good laugh, even the Cowboys fan.

Love it.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/285 "2012-01-02T05:57:02Z")

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Couldn’t have had a more satisfying last two weeks of the season, knocking both the Eagles and Cowboys out of the playoffs in back to back games. Even as a secondary Jets fan I can acknowledge that knocking the Eagles out by beating the Jets made it even more satisfying.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/286 "2012-01-02T06:27:02Z")

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If you think Jerry Jones has been a loser for the past 15 years, you would be wrong.

120-120 (.500)

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/287 "2012-01-02T14:32:59Z")

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Jere has to figure out something. He really ante up for that building… and he needs playoff games to make that thing pay off. He doesn’t do well with strong figures (Johnson, Parcells) but he dominates weak guys (Phillips…Chan…that other guy who wore the headset who’s not even worth googling… )  
He really needs to find a football middle guy… someone willing to put up with him and his son Steve… and communicate effectively with garrett and the field… A Jim Finks like guy… Finks worked in Minnesota…and Chicago… brought in Ryan tolerated Ditka… smooth things out between Halas and the field and drafted pretty damn well.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/288 "2012-01-02T14:50:05Z")

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Don’t care how hung over I might be…it’s a beautiful fricking morning.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/289 "2012-01-02T16:08:45Z")

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Its the day after and the sports media simply can not quit talking about this game. It is the only thing that happened yesterday!

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfc-east-2011/592382/290 "2012-01-02T17:34:55Z")

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> [@Chicagojeff](#):
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> Jere has to figure out something. He really ante up for that building.. and he needs playoff games to make that thing pay off. He doesn’t do well with strong figures (Johnson, Parcells) but he dominates weak guys (Phillips..Chan…that other guy who wore the headset who’s not even worth googling.. )  
> He really needs to find a football middle guy.. someone willing to put up with him and his son Steve.. and communicate effectively with garrett and the field.. A Jim Finks like guy.. Finks worked in Minnesota…and Chicago.. brought in Ryan tolerated Ditka.. smooth things out between Halas and the field and drafted pretty damn well.

Sad thing is that the guys who can really build a team (Johnson/Parcells) are the people Jerry needs but can’t work with. They lay a nice foundation, leave town, the successor does fairly well with it for a while, and Jerry destroys what they built.

I think his ego wants to be able to say he built a championship team all by himself, but in reality, he can’t do it without the likes of Johnson/Parcells. I bet that pisses him off.

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