# NFL 2018 Regular Season **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 30, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323 "2018-11-30T06:29:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/61 "2018-12-05T01:20:54Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > He doesn’t seem to have any real interest in playing football What are you basing that on? It’s not like he’s turning down invites or going the full-Manziel. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/62 "2018-12-05T02:11:33Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Everything you say is accurate, but I think the last statement is less certain. There are absolutely backup QBs on NFL rosters that are every bit as limited as Kaep. Skill wise, certainly. But outside of guys like Lamar Jackson, Taysom Hill, or maybe Mason Rudolph, who are clearly the future hope for their franchise’s, there’s not many read/option QBs left. RGIII, gone. Tebow, gone. Vince Young, gone. There are players who have shown the ability to adapt (Cam Newton. Joe Webb. Andy Dalton), but Kaepernick showed, st least to me, that he couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/63 "2018-12-05T05:01:59Z")
Being limited is not the same thing as being a read/option QB. Also, RGIII played this week. definitely not gone. Kaep isn’t more limited than Kizer. Or Landry Jones, or EJ Manuel, or Josh Johnson, or Ryan Mallett, or Geno Smith…all guys who were getting paid to be QBs and/or got multiple workouts this season. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/64 "2018-12-05T06:21:11Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Also, RGIII played this week. definitely not gone. I think the statement intended to convey that RGIII was gone with respect to being available to the Redskins. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/65 "2018-12-05T16:32:44Z")
Gruden has said they’re not going with Kaepernick. > **[Jay Gruden: Redskins unlikely to sign Colin Kaepernick](https://www.nfl.com/news/jay-gruden-redskins-unlikely-to-sign-colin-kaepernick-0ap3000000996174)** > > Washington Redskins coach Jay Gruden told reporters Tuesday that the team is unlikely to bring in Colin Kaepernick after Colt McCoy suffered a broken leg in Monday's loss to the Eagles. He mentioned a point that was made in this thread: _“Had this been Week 1, maybe he would probably be a greater possibility but since it’s week 13 with four games to go, in order to really utilize somebody like Colin Kapernick’s skillset, you’re talking about a whole new group of formations and run concepts and all that good stuff," Gruden explained. “It’s just very difficult.”_ So basically they’d have to redo their offense for him to fit, and they just can’t possibly do that right now. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/66 "2018-12-05T16:46:37Z")
So, they’re going to sign some guy off the street who is going to know more and fit in better? Kaepernick’s thing was improvisation. He’d drop back to pass, not find someone, and manufacture a run out of whatever situation he happened to be in during that play. Gruden is full of shit. Guys who have beat up women, abused steroids and other drugs, and caused big locker room problems get 2nd and 3rd chances. Kaepernick is never going to play again despite never having done any of those things. As they say, “Do the math.” ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/67 "2018-12-05T18:16:03Z")
Well, the kind of funny thing is, you know who the QB was in San Francisco that Kaepernick took over for mid-season back in 2012? Yeah, it was Alex Smith, the QB who started the season as Washington’s starting QB. I don’t recall if San Fran had to revamp their entire offense at the time. But, maybe that was just because Kap was new and now that teams know his game things are different. Now you have to design around his skill. I kind of get it. But they signed Josh Johnson. Who? This dude hasn’t taken an NFL snap in 4 years. I guess at least he’s continued to play in the UFL, but still a weird signing. Has Kaepernick entertained offers from other leagues, UFL, CFL, arena? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/68 "2018-12-05T21:10:26Z")
I’m good with whatever sinks Washington. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/69 "2018-12-05T21:50:48Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I think the statement intended to convey that RGIII was gone with respect to being available to the Redskins. He can clarify, but why would he put that in a series with Tebow and VY if that’s the case? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/70 "2018-12-06T00:45:33Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > I’m curious if they are going to rename the Mike McCarthy Show (it has been named for the current coach in the past) I guess it doesn’t take that long to change the title graphic. > For those not familiar it is a half hour show “reviews and previews games this week, is joined by a special Packers guest and a question and answer session with the fans” > > Brian Answer, the show is now “Total Packers” > [@Host Larry M](#): > > Welcome to Total Packers which replaces the Mike McCarthy Show for obvious reasons Brian ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/71 "2018-12-06T02:03:08Z")
Random unrelated thought: Does anyone else feel that quarterbacks faking a slide (thus forcing defenders to refrain from hitting them) but then in fact continuing to gain yardage is unfairly exploiting the QB-protecting rules? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/72 "2018-12-06T02:37:27Z")
Yes, absolutely. That shit not only needs to be spotted at the right place, but penalized if it’s egregious. QBs start slowing down and look like they’re going to slide, the defender slows down, then the QB speeds up and gets a few extra steps. I hate watching that shit. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/73 "2018-12-06T02:49:11Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Yes, absolutely. That shit not only needs to be spotted at the right place, but penalized if it’s egregious. QBs start slowing down and look like they’re going to slide, the defender slows down, then the QB speeds up and gets a few extra steps.\*\* I hate watching that shit.\*\* Yeah, me too. I feel like the NFL should make some kind of an effort to internally within the league (to avoid scrutiny) put the message out there that a QB running the football is a _runner_, and therefore is awarded zero “extra protection” than an actual RB would expect to receive. For now, it _is_ technically tackle football. For now. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/74 "2018-12-06T03:55:38Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Random unrelated thought: Does anyone else feel that quarterbacks faking a slide (thus forcing defenders to refrain from hitting them) but then in fact continuing to gain yardage is unfairly exploiting the QB-protecting rules? My suggestion is that every time the QB does this, the defense is allowed one “freebie” where the next “roughing the passer” infraction carries no penalty. I’m curious how often they’d pull that stunt then. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/75 "2018-12-06T04:56:34Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Yeah, me too. I feel like the NFL should make some kind of an effort to internally within the league (to avoid scrutiny) put the message out there that a QB running the football is a _runner_, and therefore is awarded zero “extra protection” than an actual RB would expect to receive. > > For now, it _is_ technically tackle football. For now. Yeah I have never fully understood why QBs needed special protection when running the ball. The logic seems to be that QBs like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are physically dainty and fragile whereas a prototypical RB like Adrian Peterson or LeSean McCoy is made of tough stuff. If so, sounds like it might be based off of some kind of subconscious racial stereotyping given that most QBs are white and most RBs are black. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/76 "2018-12-06T05:22:43Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Random unrelated thought: Does anyone else feel that quarterbacks faking a slide (thus forcing defenders to refrain from hitting them) but then in fact continuing to gain yardage is unfairly exploiting the QB-protecting rules? Yes, that should be flagged as unsportsmanlike conduct. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/77 "2018-12-06T06:01:11Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Yeah I have never fully understood why QBs needed special protection when running the ball. The logic seems to be that QBs like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are physically dainty and fragile whereas a prototypical RB like Adrian Peterson or LeSean McCoy is made of tough stuff. > > If so, sounds like it might be based off of some kind of subconscious racial stereotyping given that most QBs are white and most RBs are black. You’re overthinking it way too much. It’s far simpler. Owners invest a lot of money into their QBs. Owners also happen to be the ones who vote on and approve rules devised by the Competition Committee. So, rules protect QBs. No racism or thought about what makes a QB physically different from other players, it’s purely about money as is everything in the NFL. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/78 "2018-12-06T14:28:23Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Random unrelated thought: Does anyone else feel that quarterbacks faking a slide (thus forcing defenders to refrain from hitting them) but then in fact continuing to gain yardage is unfairly exploiting the QB-protecting rules? Absolutely, much I like I think the fake fair catch is BS. Rules in place for player safety should not be exploited. ---
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/79 "2018-12-06T15:15:54Z")
QB’s wear lighter shoulder pads, for an unencumbered throwing motion, that may have something to do with the extra protection rules. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323/80 "2018-12-06T15:29:49Z")
> [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > QB’s wear lighter shoulder pads, for an unencumbered throwing motion, that may have something to do with the extra protection rules. True, but I don’t believe that’s the primary reason. A team’s starting QB is frequently the highest-paid player on the team, and an injury to him is nearly always devastating to his team’s chances to win. They’ve instituted these rules to protect that investment, and to discourage defensive players from trying to get in unnecessary / cheap shots at the QB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2018-regular-season/825323.md?page=5)