# NFL 2020: Super Bowl! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [February 1, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000 "2021-02-01T16:18:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/81 "2021-02-08T01:25:46Z")
IMHO, the rules ought to be changed so that it doesn’t even matter if the pass was catchable or not. If the DB interferes with the receiver, he interfered. Otherwise, it would be like saying, “The lineman was holding, but that holding was okay because it had no effect on the play.” A foul is a foul. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/82 "2021-02-08T01:26:46Z")
It’s honestly a bit of an absurd rule, why should the defender get away with a foul just because the QB made a bad throw? Should it not be a holding penalty when the defender is 50 yards away from the ball? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/83 "2021-02-08T01:28:00Z")
AB on pace to get a ring. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/84 "2021-02-08T01:28:26Z")
Defense already has it tough enough. We can throw them a little bone. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/85 "2021-02-08T01:28:29Z")
It’s probably a rule because it would incentivize WRs seeking out contact even more and trying to draw PI. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/86 "2021-02-08T01:31:42Z")
Shame the audio mix was so fucked up during Starboy. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/87 "2021-02-08T01:42:45Z")
There would still have to be lins drawing about whether the interfered-with WR was the targeted receiver, if you let the throw be any distance away. I think the Chiefs can come back, but if the Bucs were going to win, this is how they’d have to be playing. The Chiefs need to get out of their own way. Catch the balls that they’ve been dropping. Find a way to protect Mahomes. Stop with the DPI. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/88 "2021-02-08T01:46:55Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > There would still have to be lins drawing about whether the interfered-with WR was the targeted receiver, if you let the throw be any distance away. They are obscenely generous with the “receiver in the vicinity” on intentional grounding, I’d say this is on par. In fact there were 2 Mahomes intentional grounding calls they swallowed because of it. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/89 "2021-02-08T01:47:03Z")
With Mahomes and the KC offense, of course they can come back. They always have a chance to come back from any deficit. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/90 "2021-02-08T02:01:46Z")
I think you can stick a fork in this one. If I’m Sean Payton, I’m not giving Jameis Winston the ball next season unless absolutely necessary. This season for the Bucs is illustrating just what a stiff he is. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/91 "2021-02-08T02:05:39Z")
What an incredible pass break up. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/92 "2021-02-08T02:10:04Z")
Fournette might singlehandedly salt this one away. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/93 "2021-02-08T02:11:14Z")
Who do you all predict for MVP? Another one for Brady, or does someone else get it? Maybe Gronk, Fournette, or Shaq Barrett? I’m guessing it’ll be Brady. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/94 "2021-02-08T02:12:31Z")
Right now it looks like Gronk or Fournette, but if they hold the Chiefs under 20 points it really should be a defender, but no one guy is standing out. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/95 "2021-02-08T02:16:44Z")
So far to date, Brady has never yet won or lost a Super Bowl by a lopsided score. Looks like this will be the one. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/96 "2021-02-08T02:17:13Z")
Incidentally, I think Fournette converts that 4th down on the goal line which probably would have made him a stronger candidate. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/97 "2021-02-08T02:20:07Z")
I’m guessing Brady will get it. Whether the stats make the case for it is debatable, but all of the conversation is probably going to end up being about how Brady made this all happen, how he brought the offense together, made the team better. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/98 "2021-02-08T02:22:35Z")
Yeah, in absence of a huge stats day for a skill guy, the QB is the safe bet. There’s still time for one of the Bucs defenders to get a decisive INT or something and win the award for effectively neutralizing Hill. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/99 "2021-02-08T02:26:01Z")
The Chiefs have looked a little mentally flat all night long and I have to wonder if their problems didn’t start toward the tail end of the week with Brett Reid. I’m sure the Chiefs prepped their ass off but the Chiefs as an organization are worshiped by the community. It’s not just an accident; it’s a potentially fatal accident with a five-year-old victim. It’ not just an assistant; it’s the son of a legendary head coach with out-sized influence on the organization. Terrible optics in a Midwestern town. You don’t want these kinds of distractions at any time of the year but especially not in the biggest event of the season, and for many, the biggest game of their lives. And you can’t have these distractions against a team loaded with experienced, accomplished veterans like Brady, Gronk, Pierre-Paul, Suh, White, and others. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000/100 "2021-02-08T02:27:58Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The Chiefs have looked a little mentally flat all night long and I have to wonder if their problems didn’t start toward the tail end of the week with Brett Reid. Nah. They are definitely mentally out of it, but they did this to themselves by getting frustrated early and letting it get into their heads. Honestly, they are playing like the game is too big for them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-super-bowl/932000.md?page=6)