# NFL 2020: Week 13

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [December 3, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116 "2020-12-03T15:07:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/81 "2020-12-08T01:32:15Z")

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Time for Larry Csonka, Bob Griese and Mercury Morris to pop the champagne for another year.

The KC Chiefs might send Ron Rivera a bouquet of roses tomorrow morning.

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### Author: ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/82 "2020-12-08T01:32:28Z")

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That was AMAZING!!!

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/83 "2020-12-08T01:34:30Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Well, I did not see that coming. Steelers blow a 14-point first half lead.

They said the Steelers were 78-1-1 with that lead on their turf

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/84 "2020-12-08T01:35:50Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> They said the Steelers were 78-1-1 with that lead on their turf

I didn’t hear that. Was that stat with a 14-point first half lead, or a 14-point lead at any point in the game?

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/85 "2020-12-08T01:42:16Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I didn’t hear that. Was that stat with a 14-point first half lead, or a 14-point lead at any point in the game?

Don’t remember and googling 78 and Steelers brings up 1978.

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/86 "2020-12-08T01:46:24Z")

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Zach Moss picked the wrong time for a fumble

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/87 "2020-12-08T01:47:08Z")

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Two possessions, two goal line stands on 4th down to keep the game scoreless. I actually expected a bit more … inventive playcalling, at least by the Niners, on the goalline.

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/88 "2020-12-08T01:47:21Z")

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This article states that the Steelers were 220-0-2 at home when holding a 14 point lead at any point, until this game against the Chargers in 2018.

So the stat you brought must have been first half, I would think.

> **[Steelers Blow 14-Point Lead At Home For 1st Time In 223 Such Games - Steelers...](https://steelersdepot.com/2018/12/steelers-blow-14-point-lead-at-home-for-1st-time-in-223-such-games/)**
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> The Pittsburgh Steelers scored a pair of touchdowns on their first two drives last night against the Los Angeles Chargers, and all of a sudden it felt like it was going to be one of those games. You know, like a Thursday night game, a blowout similar...

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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/89 "2020-12-08T02:47:07Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> So the stat you brought must have been first half, I would think.

Makes sense, I was watching online with a group and things were flying fast and furious

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### Author: ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/90 "2020-12-08T03:08:29Z")

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Wow!

I don’t think Washington is going to make the playoffs, and honestly it’s really not a good thing for them if they do, but they are not a team that anyone wants to play right now. I don’t know who that announcer was, but he was right, with Alex Smith shaken off the rust WFT isn’t a game you can just win, you have to _beat_ them.

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### Author: ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/91 "2020-12-08T08:43:59Z")

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Feeling a little fatalistic after my Steelers get their first loss. Can’t run the ball worth a damn, injuries piling up at linebacker, Ben averaging about 2 yards per pass attempt, and now using a practice squad kicker for the stretch run… At 11-1 the playoffs are almost guaranteed at this point, but not feeling too confident about what happens once we get there.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/92 "2020-12-08T13:44:02Z")

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And whaddya know: the Team beat the 'Stillers after all. A little surprised they threw as often as they did with a one-TD lead in the 4th quarter. Lots of dropped passes, too.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/93 "2020-12-08T13:45:53Z")

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Both the Team and the Giants are much better now than in the first half. Look at their second half record at year’s end and that’ll tell us what kind of team they are.

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### Author: ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/94 "2020-12-08T16:39:00Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> And whaddya know: the Team beat the 'Stillers after all

I propose “The Washington Footies.”

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/95 "2020-12-08T17:23:35Z")

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> [@jaycat](#):
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> I propose “The Washington Footies.”

**W** ashington **T** he **F** ooties has a better acronym.

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### Author: ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/96 "2020-12-08T17:31:44Z")

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The Washington Lobbyists, with a logo of Jack Abramoff wearing a black Fedora

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#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/97 "2020-12-08T19:02:22Z")

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Eagles will be starting Jalen Hurts at QB next week.

Think they’re regretting that $128 million extension?

> **[Eagles to start Hurts at QB vs. Saints over Wentz](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30477995/sources-philadelphia-eagles-start-jalen-hurts-qb-carson-wentz)**
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> The Eagles are starting Jalen Hurts on Sunday at quarterback over Carson Wentz.

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### Author: ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/98 "2020-12-08T19:18:28Z")

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The Chiefs have had a tougher schedule than the Steelers (who really only faced one good team, Baltimore.) At this rate it is very possible the Steelers will lose to Buffalo and then Kansas City gets the inside track to the 1# seed.

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/99 "2020-12-08T20:36:13Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> At this rate it is very possible the Steelers will lose to Buffalo and then Kansas City gets the inside track to the 1# seed.

Long way to go, obviously, but if both teams win out and finish 15-1, Steelers would have the #1 seed because they would have no conference losses, while the Chiefs would have one such loss (Chiefs lost to the Raiders.)

Steelers remaining schedule: @ Buffalo, @ Cincy, Indy, @ Cleveland  
Chiefs remaining schedule: @ Miami, @ Saints, Falcons, Chargers

Steelers remaining opponents winning percentage: .594  
Chiefs remaining opponents winning percentage: .521

Percentages listed [here](http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/remaining_schedule_strength)

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#### Post date: [December 8, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2020-week-13/927116/100 "2020-12-08T22:35:38Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Eagles will be starting Jalen Hurts at QB next week.
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> Think they’re regretting that $128 million extension?

At least he was briefly good, even great.

Goff and Garoppolo have never been better than okay. Garoppolo’s issues are at least somewhat due to injury but same with Wentz.

It’s customary to overpay a QB who doesn’t absolutely stink (and it’s not unusual for them to start to stink after getting the contract).

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