# NFL 2021: Week Nine Lives

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [November 4, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804 "2021-11-04T17:52:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/81 "2021-11-09T23:34:52Z")

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I know it’s a completely different sport but sometimes I think football could use an arranged fight like hockey. Just get two second stringers to agree to go, have a quick fight, toss them both from the game, and get on with it.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/82 "2021-11-09T23:39:00Z")

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The other tongue in cheek suggestion I’ve heard - which is more Cafe Society than Game Room - is that since football games have a band performing music at halftime, then a music concert needs to have a brief football game during the intermission.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/83 "2021-11-10T02:06:16Z")

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If it makes you feel better, you just keep telling yourself that. “Preferential treatment” my black and gold ass.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/84 "2021-11-10T03:50:19Z")

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You have to admit that was a terrible, terrible penalty. Just awful. Nobody wants trivial shit like this to ruin the outcome of games. And it did exactly that.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/85 "2021-11-10T07:29:03Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Racism. Old rich white guys don’t like the imagery of a Black man being disrespectful.

Marsh is white, though he has so many tattoos they might have gotten confused.

And yeah that official is a dirtbag.

> **[Bears' Marsh calls out ref's 'hip-check' before flag](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32588927/chicago-bears-lb-cassius-marsh-says-was-hip-checked-ref-being-hit-taunting-penalty-incredibly-inappropriate)**
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> Bears LB Cassius Marsh accused official Tony Corrente of "hip-checking" him moments before Corrente flagged Marsh for taunting in the fourth quarter of Monday night's game: "I just think that that was incredibly inappropriate."

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/86 "2021-11-10T16:37:26Z")

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Everyone but you sees it crystal clear.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/87 "2021-11-10T16:37:26Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> “Preferential treatment” my black and gold ass.

I sincerely doubt that the calls (and non-calls) that went against the Bears happened because the league/refs/networks wanted the Steelers to win. But, without the bad calls, the outcome certainly might have been different.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/88 "2021-11-10T23:45:50Z")

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No one complains about the refs when their team wins. It’s whining, pure and simple. There are some posters here who shock me when they don’t complain about the officiating.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/89 "2021-11-11T00:31:25Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> No one complains about the refs when their team wins.

That’s absolutely false. I am a Seattle fan and I’ve complained when I see officials get it wrong in games where the Seahawks win, and I’ve even complained when a specific call favors the Seahawks if it’s wrong. Some people just want to see them get it right, it’s not all homerism.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/90 "2021-11-11T00:34:54Z")

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Fine. Most then. West coasters… (I keed)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/91 "2021-11-11T00:35:10Z")

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_shake fist_

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/92 "2021-11-11T01:53:55Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> No one complains about the refs when their team wins.

Is it okay to complain about the refs when you don’t root for either team? I’m neither for nor against the Bears or Steelers, but I certainly think that the Bears got jobbed big time on MNF.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/93 "2021-11-11T15:37:50Z")

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I’ve seen several instances online this week with Steelers fans calling BS on Monday’s officiating as well. I am no fan of “The refs screwed us” narrative but it’s hard to ignore so many terrible calls and missed penalties in one game.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-nine-lives/953804/94 "2021-11-11T23:34:26Z")

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ESPN is calling OBJ as a “low risk, high reward” pickup for the Rams. Should’ve added “high maintenance”.

Just think of how many anti-fans the Rams and Packers have added in the past week.

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