# NFL 2021: Week Ten-donitis **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [November 11, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193 "2021-11-11T16:39:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/41 "2021-11-14T04:21:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The NFL Senior Vice President of Officiating repeated that it was the “posture” that made the call justified. Articles I’ve read repeat that nothing was said, it was simply the “stare Wow, that is totally ludicrous. Like jaw-droppingly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/42 "2021-11-14T18:10:49Z")
If you appreciate good o-line play you should watch the Browns this year, their run game is a thing of beauty. Fantastic scheme and execution. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/43 "2021-11-14T20:15:09Z")
New Orleans will be holding kicker tryouts tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/44 "2021-11-14T20:40:54Z")
Not today I guess. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/45 "2021-11-14T20:53:14Z")
Since I can’t write it on the WaPo comments, FUCK Tom Brady and the Bucs. I don’t know where this WFT team has been all year, but they showed up today. Maybe they just need two weeks to prepare for every game. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/46 "2021-11-14T20:54:07Z")
If a punt gets blocked and goes out of bounds in the end zone, what is the call? My guess is that it’s a safety. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/47 "2021-11-14T21:18:34Z")
No, since the impetus of the ball going out of the end zone is caused by the receiving team (by a defender blocking the ball and nobody else touching it after) it’s a touchback and the punting team keeps the ball. I think this is the same situation as a fumble, since it’s a loose ball that hasn’t technically changed possession if nobody recovers it. > **[Fumbling in the End Zone | NFL Football Operations](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/fumbling-in-the-end-zone/)** > When a fumble goes out of bounds in the end zone, the following shall apply: > If a ball is fumbled in a team’s own end zone or in the field of play and goes out of bounds in the end zone, it is a safety, if that team provided the impetus that sent the ball into the end zone (See [11-5-1](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2019-nfl-rulebook/#article-1.-safety) for exception for momentum). **If the impetus was provided by the opponent, it is a touchback.** ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/48 "2021-11-14T21:23:55Z")
And the Lions blow it again! ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/49 "2021-11-14T21:25:00Z")
Totally nuts OT! (Lions-Steelers) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/50 "2021-11-14T21:27:39Z")
Steelers getting a bunch more home cookin’ from the zebras. The Lions however are the Lions and they can’t overcome it. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/51 "2021-11-14T21:41:21Z")
Well the Lions had the first 0-16. Now they can get the first 0-15-1. Team Goals! ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/52 "2021-11-14T21:42:39Z")
If a punt is blocked and goes directly out of the end zone, it’s a safety. Blocking the punt isn’t considered to change the impetus. If a player on the receiving team touches the ball after the block, that changes things. Then it’s similar to what happened to the Cowboys last week, where they blocked a punt but then touched it afterwards and gave up a new set of downs. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/53 "2021-11-14T21:43:22Z")
0-16-1, which to me is even better. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/54 "2021-11-14T21:44:43Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/55 "2021-11-14T21:48:07Z")
The DET-PIT game gets my vote for game of the year. It was a beautiful comedy of errors. Nitpick time: I’m tired of announcers/analysts talking about who wants to win. All of the players and coaches want to win. As a great philosopher once said “You can’t always get what you want”. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/56 "2021-11-14T21:54:12Z")
Isn’t this a 17 game season? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/57 "2021-11-14T22:12:38Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Blocking the punt isn’t considered to change the impetus. I had to search for what the NFL considers “impetus”, and according to them: [http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/6\_Rule3\_Definitions.pdf](http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/6_Rule3_Definitions.pdf) > Impetus is the action of a player that gives momentum to the ball and sends it in touch. > The Impetus is attributed to the offense except when the ball is sent in touch through a new momentum when the defense muffs a ball which is at rest, or nearly at rest, or illegally bats: > (a) a kick or fumble; > (b) a backward pass after it has struck the ground; > (c) or illegally kicks any ball (12-1-9). Since blocking a punt is legal, I guess that means that the impetus is still considered to be caused by the kicker even if the direction is changed by a blocker. I guess it’s probably no different than a pass deflected by a defender; it’s still a pass by the offense by every rule regardless of the trajectory change by the defense. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/58 "2021-11-14T22:14:41Z")
Yeah, that strikes me as one of the laziest/wrongest sports cliches. Motivation does not = results. The second-most-hated one is that “That baseball pitch/field goal kick violates physics!” No it does not, physics is the **reason** it does what it does. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/59 "2021-11-14T22:20:35Z")
My Colts had a 17-0 lead on the Jaguars and almost blew _another_ game, but we held on, and now we’re .500. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/60 "2021-11-14T22:26:42Z")
> [@LoneRhino](#): > > Nitpick time: I’m tired of announcers/analysts talking about who wants to win. In fairness, it actually had some meaning in the Detroit game. Steelers moving the ball with under 2 minutes and Detroit is still calling timeouts on the off chance they could stop them and have one more shot. Most teams would hope to run out the clock and get the tie rather than risk a loss. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193.md?page=4)