# NFL 2021: Week Ten-donitis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [November 11, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193 "2021-11-11T16:39:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/61 "2021-11-14T22:52:36Z")

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Patriots put on a second dominating performance against an even better opponent than last week. Off-season pickups like Matthew Judon and Hunter Henry are really starting to come up big. (Well, Judon had looked great all season). Rookie RB Rhamondre Stevenson had an excellent game and Mac Jones is starting to get the ball down field with success. I’m starting to feel optimistic that the Belichick magic is taking hold.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/62 "2021-11-14T22:54:42Z")

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Every team I rooted for has lost, or is losing, so I can safely predict the Chiefs will lose.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/63 "2021-11-14T23:01:26Z")

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And to top it all off, the NFL officials _admitted_ they were wrong! Hopefully they rescind dude’s fine, but it won’t take away from the fact that it cost the Bears that game and handed it to the damn Stealers. A situation (referee favoritism towards them over the years) which is all too stark not to see unless you are blind.

> **[NFL officials acknowledge refs erred on multiple calls against Bears in Week...](https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-officials-acknowledge-refs-erred-on-multiple-calls-against-bears-in-week-9-l)**
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> Members of the NFL’s officiating department who reviewed the game acknowledged that referee Tony Corrente and his crew erred on at least three separate critical calls and non-calls that went against the Bears in their loss to the Steelers, per Ian...

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/64 "2021-11-14T23:02:08Z")

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Panthers up 23-0 over the Cardinals at the half. If they hang on, with both TB and NO sliding, NFC South could be a mad scramble with everyone alive in the last two weeks.

How come the box score shows Cam Newton with zero passing yards but a passing touchdown?

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/65 "2021-11-14T23:10:42Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> How come the box score shows Cam Newton with zero passing yards but a passing touchdown?

2-yard TD pass, another screen pass for a 2-yard loss.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/66 "2021-11-14T23:17:00Z")

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My education in olive shape ball game continues.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/67 "2021-11-15T01:18:54Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> but it won’t take away from the fact that it cost the Bears that game and handed it to the damn Stealers

Is it the same crew that reffed the Seahawks-Stealers Super Bowl?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/68 "2021-11-15T01:32:40Z")

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I can tell you as a Seahawks fan that the SB in question wasn’t even close; Seattle sucked enough that Pittsburgh didn’t need the refs’ help.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/69 "2021-11-15T01:38:55Z")

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You’ve come to peace with that horrible block in th back call or whatever on Hasselbeck?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/70 "2021-11-15T01:53:30Z")

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Oh no no no. The officiating was _terrible_. Even the referee himself admitted he’d made awful mistakes. No, that game was awful.

> **[NFL ref: My mistakes 'impacted' '06 Super Bowl](https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5444048)**
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> NFL referee Bill Leavy has reopened a Seahawks' wound that won't close by acknowledging he made mistakes in Seattle's disputed, 2006 Super Bowl loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

But even with that, it was an 11 point game. I think the result would have been closer with better officiating (probably 21-17, just a WAG) but I don’t think the Seahawks would have won it regardless.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/71 "2021-11-15T05:37:32Z")

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KC finally had something resembling their typical offensive game, but I’m not sure how much to read into it. It seemed like they got good breaks on a few high leverage plays, like the punt fake, the Jackson fumble, the tossup TD to Williams.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/72 "2021-11-15T08:25:50Z")

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Glad I was wrong about them losing. Were there any scorigamis?

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/73 "2021-11-15T15:32:42Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> KC finally had something resembling their typical offensive game, but I’m not sure how much to read into it. It seemed like they got good breaks on a few high leverage plays, like the punt fake, the Jackson fumble, the tossup TD to Williams.

Wow, okay. Mahomes was 35-50 for 406 yards and 5 touchdowns, no picks and wasn’t sacked once. KC had 94 yards rushing. If that’s only something resembling their typical offense, Chiefs fans will take it every Sunday.

KC also had a crucial fumble late in the first quarter near midfield on a punt return. Raiders immediately responded with a quick TD to tie the game. So just when the Chiefs looked like they were ready to take early control of the game, they gave up a high leverage play. And their normally reliable kicker missed a FG just before halftime that kept LV within striking distance. So the Raiders also got some good breaks on a few plays.

And while the Raiders aren’t exactly an offensive juggernaut, the KC defense held them to 14 points, less than 300 total yards, 50 yards rushing, sacked Carr twice, and forced him to make some really bad throws, one of which was intercepted.

It was, after all, just one game, and next week against the Cowboys will be a huge matchup. Boys looked great against Atlanta, but KC also looked pretty damn good against the Raiders.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/74 "2021-11-15T18:16:12Z")

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Russell Wilson got shut out for the first time in his career yesterday. He’s also coming back from his first ever severe-enough-to-keep-him-out-of-games injury, so perhaps it’s not totally unexpected.

That said, while his stats pre-injury this season were fairly good, to my eye test, he has been pretty mediocre-to-bad dating back to halfway through last season. There were obviously all the trade rumors last offseason, and those are going to be back this year. But if he doesn’t start to look more like the old Russell Wilson, I’d be worried the Seahawks wouldn’t be able to even get that much value for him. A year ago, three first rounders was a reasonable expectation. Now… who knows?

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/75 "2021-11-15T18:24:05Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Oh no no no. The officiating was _terrible_. Even the referee himself admitted he’d made awful mistakes. No, that game was awful.  
> [NFL referee admits he made game-altering mistakes in 2006 Super Bowl - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5444048)
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> But even with that, it was an 11 point game. I think the result would have been closer with better officiating (probably 21-17, just a WAG) but I don’t think the Seahawks would have won it regardless.

I disagree. When the game has that many officiating errors from start to end, it’s hard to say how it would have ended up. Give Jackson that 1st quarter touchdown, and it’s not just a 21-17 game instead; it becomes a whole different game with each team making different decisions the whole way. I’m not saying the Seahawks win a well-officiated version of Super Bowl XL, though I do think they outplayed the Steelers. I am saying that we’ll never know.

Like a couple years ago when the Rams snuck into the Super Bowl based on the single worst call in NFL history (taking egregiousness and leverage into account.) How would that Super Bowl have gone with the deserving Saints there instead? No one will ever know.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/76 "2021-11-15T19:02:02Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Like a couple years ago when the Rams snuck into the Super Bowl based on the single worst call in NFL history (taking egregiousness and leverage into account.)

Yes, now _that_ is an example of the officials giving the win to a team based solely on their poor officiating.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/77 "2021-11-15T19:26:28Z")

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I only saw the OT, but that might have been the worse played period by two teams I have ever seen.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/78 "2021-11-16T03:19:44Z")

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I really love the idea of this Peyton/Eli MNF commentary thing - I would much rather hear random smart players commentating on games than professional broadcasters - but they’re focusing way too much on turning it into a talk show. They have guests most of the game, and when the guests are there they’re hardly paying attention to the game.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/79 "2021-11-16T03:43:27Z")

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That’s my take too. I like the repartee the two have, and I love their analysis of football. But it devolves way too often into just another talk show of famous celebrity athletes.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2021-week-ten-donitis/954193/80 "2021-11-16T03:59:31Z")

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I would watch more of them if they actually _were_ the broadcasters and didn’t have all the other talk show stuff.

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