# NFL 2022: The Super Bowl

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [February 7, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407 "2023-02-07T00:49:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/61 "2023-02-12T22:52:51Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Sure, it could end in a blowout, but play the game 10 times, and it probably averages out to a narrow edge.

I can’t stay up that late.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/62 "2023-02-12T22:59:53Z")

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I’d also expect any effect from dedicated fans to be minimized, for any game as big as the Superbowl. Surely lots more people than usual are betting on this game, and it’s getting everyone’s attention, so dispassionate betters would be quick to jump on any opportunity.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/63 "2023-02-12T23:09:34Z")

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While I’d be happy if thr Chiefs win, I just want no injuries and no bad calls by the refs.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/64 "2023-02-12T23:22:32Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> no bad calls by the refs.

That will not happen.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/65 "2023-02-12T23:30:10Z")

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Anybody else having trouble with the FOX audio? I’ve got the sound turned up to about twice what it usually is, and can still barely hear it. Other channels seem normal.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/66 "2023-02-12T23:46:24Z")

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No problem like that here. Watching on YouTube TV.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/67 "2023-02-12T23:59:40Z")

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Pretty quick touchdown, right?

I’m mostly watching for the ads, but I can’t remember another game scoring that quickly. Less than 4 minutes in.

Edit: and now another almost 4 minutes later.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/68 "2023-02-13T00:00:54Z")

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The Eagles were playing at a fast pace, for sure. The Chiefs seem to doing the same.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/69 "2023-02-13T00:29:41Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Interestingly enough, two years later in the Super Bowl between the Broncos and Seahawks, a safety again was the first score. A bad snap on the first play from scrimmage sent the ball into the end zone, where a Denver running back fell on it for a safety. The score, which occurred just 12 seconds into the game, is the earliest score in Super Bowl history.

Ironically, the Seahawks also scored 12 seconds into the second half; returning the kickoff for a touchdown.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/70 "2023-02-13T00:38:49Z")

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Oh my.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/71 "2023-02-13T00:41:21Z")

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Huge penalty on 3rd and 1.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/72 "2023-02-13T00:45:34Z")

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I love me some great play by the O line, and the Eagles donot disappoint.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/73 "2023-02-13T01:05:44Z")

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That does not look good for Patrick

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/74 "2023-02-13T01:07:00Z")

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I am now checking the score on my phone. What happened to Patrick?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/75 "2023-02-13T01:08:35Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> What happened to Patrick?

Looked like he got his ankle rolled up a bit when he was tackled while scrambling.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/76 "2023-02-13T01:08:51Z")

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Tackled , wrapped up around the ankles, but not a bad tackle, but left limping and looking in a fair bit of pain

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/77 "2023-02-13T01:12:28Z")

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Horse shit call. That was clearly a catch (and a pretty amazing one).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/78 "2023-02-13T01:14:37Z")

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A decade or so ago, that would have been ruled a catch. Changes to the rules mean that a receiver now needs to maintain possession of the ball after initially catching it, long enough to make a football move, or going to the ground.

The rule ([source](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/)):

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> A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) **in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone** if a player, who is inbounds:
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> a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
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> b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
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> c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, **performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so**.

And, this note:

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> **If a player, who satisfied (a) and (b), but has not satisfied (c), contacts the ground and loses control of the ball, it is an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground before he regains control, or if he regains control out of bounds**

I think it was close, but by the rules as written, probably the right call to reverse it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/79 "2023-02-13T01:17:02Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> A decade or so ago, that would have been ruled a catch. Changes to the rules mean that a receiver now needs to maintain possession of the ball after initially catching it, long enough to make a football move, or going to the ground.
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> I think it was close, but by the rules as written, probably the right call to reverse it.

Yeah good call. I thought so initially and none of the replays made me think different.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-the-super-bowl/979407/80 "2023-02-13T01:17:54Z")

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Mahomes was looking much more comfortable on the sidelines , but a bit of an awkward run across the pitch at the half time break there .

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