# NFL 2022: Week Fifteen Minutes of Fame **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [December 15, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601 "2022-12-15T17:01:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/61 "2022-12-19T15:58:57Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > If I am on the NFL competition committee I would be advocating for all of that to be massively tightened up. The galling thing is the WR clearly checked with the official. It was obvious even on the TV coverage. Yes, it’s technically the responsibility of the player, but if the official has confirmed he’s not lined up offside, there’s no reason for the player to doubt it. And then for that SAME official to throw the flag after telling the player he’s ok is totally ridiculous. That should never happen. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/62 "2022-12-19T16:05:29Z")
Both the Raiders-Patriots and Jaguars-Cowboys games ended on defensive TD’s. I wonder if 2 games ending that way on the same day has ever happened. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/63 "2022-12-19T17:46:18Z")
> [@LoneRhino](#): > > Both the Raiders-Patriots and Jaguars-Cowboys games ended on defensive TD’s. I wonder if 2 games ending that way on the same day has ever happened I heard on one of the analyst shows that it was the first time since 1970 that it happened. Can’t find it to link, however. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/64 "2022-12-19T23:42:34Z")
Jets coach Robert Saleh is attacking critics of QB Zach Wilson. “The frustrating thing is that this kid is going to be a good quarterback, but the NFL and this new instant-coffee world that we’re in just doesn’t want to give people time,” Saleh said. “So, we look at him and he’s just nitpicked with a fine-tooth comb.” Not to pick nits, but this is a drip coffee world, and a fine-toothed comb is far more effective in picking nits than a coarse-toothed comb. Note that Saleh hasn’t specified who’s starting for the Jets on Thursday (his choices are Wilson, a backup with broken ribs or an unspecified nit). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/65 "2022-12-19T23:56:36Z")
To properly pick nits, one must have a fine nit wit. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/66 "2022-12-20T05:25:22Z")
The Packers stayed alive in the NFC playoff race, beating the Rams 24-12 at Lambeau in MNF; the loss eliminated the Rams from playoff contention, as well. At 4-10, Los Angeles has tied the record for most losses by a defending Super Bowl champ. The Pack are now 6-8, still a game and a half behind the Commanders for the last wild-card spot. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/67 "2022-12-20T13:17:48Z")
Saleh is spinning so hard, it gives me vertigo from over here. It’s not like people are knocking Wilson for his performance. Sure, new QBs may take time to develop and some never get there. They’re knocking his attitude and effort. At this point, few people have great expectations for Justin Fields (who the Jets also passed up) as the next great NFL QB either but nobody - not his coaches, teammates, or fans - say the same sorts of things about his demeanor and how he takes care of business during the week. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/68 "2022-12-20T13:31:23Z")
I was surprised by the reaction on Get Up yesterday. I agreed fully with Rex and Greenie who saw potential in him you could work with while also blaming the loss on the horrible clock management at the end, forcing a 58 yd field goal attempt on first down with 0:01 left in the game while still having an extra time out you didn’t even use. Then Dan Orlavsky went on an extended rant about how the clock had nothing to do with it and the entire reason for the loss was that Kyle Wilson played terribly and is terrible. One of the guys voiced my literal thought when he asked “did we watch the same game?” to which Orlavsky replied “apparently not.” They kept coming back to the topic during the show and he kept hammering the point that the only reason the Jets lost is because Kyle Wilson sucks. So he is definitely getting flak, but to my mind it is seriously misplaced. Yes that laissez-faire interception was an abomination, where he half-heartedly flicked his wrist to sort of throw the ball away and it floated gently straight to the defender. But come on, there were some throws that showed real potential. Of course he’s an entitled asshole. He was the number two draft in the NFL; I assume he’s been living a coddled bubble existence most of his life. But there is definitely some talent there. Coaches need to knock some sense into him. Hopefully the three game benching helped. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/69 "2022-12-20T13:43:35Z")
Looking back at that Commanders-Giants game…wow, there was a Giants defender, #5, who was meandering around in the Washington backfield for 2-3 full seconds, on the final Washington play, with **no one** blocking him, who could have sacked Heinecke any time he wanted but didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/70 "2022-12-20T14:13:03Z")
What, you mean like a spy? Haven’t deleted that game yet, and now I’m curious. #5 is rookie Kayvon Thibodeaux, by the way, who the Giants drafted 5th overall and is starting to look somewhat studly. Looks like he pretty clearly got poked in the eye. After the play finally ends he’s not celebrating, he’s doubled over clutching his face. Looked like another Daniel Bellinger situation. As the broadcast goes to the commercial break after the game, they show him taking off his helmet, rubbing his face, and say “Kayvon Thibodeaux banged up on the last play.” ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/71 "2022-12-21T16:13:37Z")
Franco Harris has passed at age 72, just shy of the 50th anniversary of the Immaculate Reception: > **[Steelers Nation mourns a legend | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette](https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/franco-harris-steelers-immaculate-reception-hall-of-fame-remembered/)** > > Steelers great Franco Harris is remembered for the iconic Immaculate Reception — and so much more ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/72 "2022-12-21T17:33:40Z")
RIP to a legend. I’d never seen this interview before…. > ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/73 "2022-12-21T17:37:57Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Franco Harris has passed at age 72 Oh no! I remember him. He really was a legend. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/74 "2022-12-21T17:44:12Z")
Franco was one of my favorite NFL players during the '70s. It’s such a sad coincidence that the Steelers are going to be wearing throwback uniforms, with a commemorative patch of Harris, in this weekend’s game, in honor of the 50th anniversary of the Immaculate Reception, and retiring Harris’s #32. > **[Steelers to Wear Block Throwbacks, Franco Harris Patch vs Raiders](https://steelersnow.com/pittsburgh-steelers-throwbacks-patch-franco-harris-jersey-retirement/)** > > PITTSBURGH — The Pittsburgh Steelers will wear throwbacks retire the No. 32 uniform of Franco Harris during a ceremony this December that will coincide with the 50th anniversary of the Immaculate Reception, president Art Rooney II announced on... ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/75 "2022-12-21T23:00:29Z")
A few QB moves announced today: After the record-setting loss to the Vikings last week, the Colts are benching Matt Ryan, in favor of Nick Foles. Coach Jeff Saturday says it’s his intent to have Foles finish out the season as the starter. The Cardinals, who’ve already lost starter Kyler Murray to an ACL tear, have now also (at least temporarily) lost his backup, Colt McCoy, to the concussion protocol. Third-stringer Trace McSorley will make his first NFL start on Sunday. > **[Colts bench Ryan, to start Foles vs. Chargers](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35297952/colts-bench-qb-matt-ryan-start-nick-foles-vs-chargers)** > > Nick Foles will start for the Colts against the Chargers on Monday night as coach Jeff Saturday has benched Matt Ryan after the team's collapse vs. the Vikings. > **[Cards' McCoy out; McSorley set for 1st NFL start](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35298838/cardinals-colt-mccoy-trace-mcsorley-set-1st-nfl-start)** > > Cardinals quarterback Colt McCoy is still in the concussion protocol and won't play on Christmas night against the Buccaneers, coach Kliff Kingsbury announced Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/76 "2022-12-21T23:02:16Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Third-stringer Trace McSorley will make his first NFL start on Sunday. With a name like that, how is that man not a country musician? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/77 "2022-12-22T17:02:55Z")
I’m on the road and won’t be able to start a week 16 thread. @Hamlet? @kenobi_65? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/78 "2022-12-22T17:04:19Z")
If nobody bites I/we can just start a low-effort one before kickoff tonight. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/79 "2022-12-22T17:18:13Z")
Let me know so I can follow it. I’ll be at new boyfriends for the weekend. He says we are to root for the Jets to give the Browns a chance, though he knows I want the Ravens in there.just hoping for the Chiefs, really. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601/80 "2022-12-22T18:46:20Z")
I’ll start one. Give me a few minutes to enter the games and odds. I’ll post a link. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-fifteen-minutes-of-fame/976601.md?page=5)