# NFL 2022: Week Seventeen Seconds
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** football-nfl
**Created:** [December 28, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243 "2022-12-28T23:16:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/1 "2022-12-28T23:16:33Z")
It’s week seventeen (seconds), a [measure of life.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRI5fDAtw5s) And a strangely fitting song for many of the teams.
> Time slips away
> And the light begins to fade
> And everything is quiet now.
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> Feeling is gone
> And the picture disappears
> And everything is cold now.
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> The dream had to end
> The wish never came true…
But enough goth teenage angst. Let’s get to the games.
**Thursday Night Football**
Cowboys at Titans (+12.5, 39.5)
**Sunday**
_Early Games_
Broncos at Chiefs (-12.5, 45)
Colts at Giants (-6, 38.5)
Jaguars at Texans (+4.5, 43.5)
Cardinals at Falcons (-3.5, 42)
Panthers at Buccaneers (-3, 40.5)
Bears at Lions (-6, 52)
Browns at Commanders (-2, 40.5)
Dolphins at Patriots (-3, 41.5)
Saints at Eagles (-6, 43.5)
_Late Games_
Jets at Seahawks (+1.5, 42.5)
49ers at Raiders (+10, 41.5)
Vikings at Packers (-3, 48)
Rams at Chargers (-6.5, 41)
**Sunday Night Football**
Steelers at Ravens (-2.5, 35)
**Monday Night Football**
Bills at Bengals (+1, 49.5)
In the AFC, there are five teams already in the playoffs and, mathematically, seven teams fighting for the remaining two spots (although the Raiders and Steelers would need some bizarre things to happen). In the NFC, the Eagles, Cowboys, Vikings, and 49ers are in, and eight teams are technically in the hunt for the other three spots.
The game to watch looks like MNF between the Bills and Bengals. In other games, I’ll be rooting for the Vikings to beat the Packers to keep the Lions’ feeble playoff hopes alive, and for the Panthers to beat the Buccs and send Brady off to an early retirement (for good this time).
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### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/2 "2022-12-28T23:30:37Z")
I agree with your goals, and still rooting for the Chiefs.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/3 "2022-12-28T23:34:36Z")
Giants are in with a win over the Colts.
Bucs win the division with a win over the Panthers, but a Carolina win gives them the inside track.
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### Author:  [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/4 "2022-12-29T02:43:40Z")
Packers win out, and either Washington loses one or the Giants lose both, and Green Bay somehow salvages a playoff berth, against either San Francisco (oh god no) or Minnesota (still please no). Stranger things have happened, but I’m not getting shades of 2010 playoff juggernaut in my bones, but more 2015 “Well, we did our best” participation trophy vibes.
Gonna be an interesting game - outdoors in Lambeau against a Vikings team that hasn’t played outdoors since before temperatures dropped in mid-November. I’m going with the hopium.
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/5 "2022-12-29T17:48:29Z")
I will never ever root against the Bears, _but_… they’re one loss out of the #1 draft spot (which I assume would be traded for a hefty haul) AND a Lions win would keep them ahead of the Pack, so I’m not too worried that apparently every single WR is injured right not.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/6 "2022-12-29T21:00:40Z")
As noted in the Week 16 thread, the Raiders have benched Derek Carr, and will be starting Jarrett Stidham at QB for the final two games, with Chase Garbers as the backup. It appears that Carr and the Raiders have mutually agreed for him to “step away” from the team for the remainder of the season, so as not to be a distraction.
Meanwhile, WR Davante Adams, who forced a trade from the Packers to the Raiders in the offseason largely for the chance to play with Carr (his friend and college QB), and who has four years left on his contract with Las Vegas, is _not_ happy.
> **[Source: Benched Carr to step away from Raiders](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35335730/raiders-bench-qb-derek-carr-start-jarrett-stidham-vs-49ers)**
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> The Raiders are benching quarterback Derek Carr in favor of Jarrett Stidham for the final two games of the season.
> **[Davante Adams sent a Strong Message on Derek Carr to his Instagram Followers](https://www.raidersbeat.com/davante-adams-sent-a-strong-message-on-derek-carr-to-his-instagram-followers/)**
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> Derek Carr is in his last days as a Raider and Davante Adams posted a message about his soon-to-be former quarterback on Wednesday. Via Adams’ verified Instagram account: “This man gave everything …
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/7 "2022-12-29T21:18:43Z")
Somebody from the Raiders also admitted it was partly to help maintain his health for any potential trades. Harder to get injured if he’s not on the field.
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/8 "2022-12-30T18:25:07Z")
Today in completely expect news:
[Blaine Gabbert helped save helicopter crash victims on his jet ski](https://twitter.com/NFLSTROUD/status/1608713168016281601?t=lFpqx0YqUOhmvr4zkvFs-A&s=19)
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### Author:  [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/9 "2022-12-30T23:40:36Z")
MNF should just be an epic, epic showdown.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/10 "2022-12-30T23:46:00Z")
The Cardinals are going to be starting journeyman David Blough at quarterback on Sunday; he’ll be the Cards’ fourth starting QB this season.
With Blough and Jason Stidham getting starts on Sunday, that will give the NFL 64 different players starting at quarterback so far this season, setting the record for number of starting QBs in a non-strike year (1987, which had several weeks of games with strike-replacement players, had 87 different starting QBs).
Only eleven NFL teams have had the same starting quarterback every week this year.
> **[Blough to be 64th NFL QB, tying non-strike mark](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35348861/cardinals-david-blough-nfl-64th-starting-qb-2022)**
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> The Cardinals will sit Colt McCoy after he experienced additional concussion symptoms and instead will start David Blough against Atlanta on Sunday.
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### Author:  [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/11 "2022-12-31T02:53:30Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Jason Stidham
Do you mean Jarrett Stidham or Jason Statham? I’m hoping for the latter.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/12 "2022-12-31T03:02:41Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Do you mean Jarrett Stidham or Jason Statham? I’m hoping for the latter.
I clearly had the latter in mind, but alas, it’s the former. 😃
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/13 "2023-01-01T16:37:30Z")
With two weeks to go (less the TNF game, of course), there are still 24 teams alive in the playoff chase. Just eight teams have been eliminated.
Only one game this week has no playoff implications: Cardinals at Falcons.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/14 "2023-01-01T20:37:39Z")
Colts quarterback Nick Foles, who had been elevated to the starting role over Matt Ryan, has been knocked out of today’s game with a rib injury. The Colts, who are getting trounced by the Giants, are now playing Sam Ehlinger at QB.
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### Author:  [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/15 "2023-01-01T21:25:45Z")
The Giants are in. Big game from Daniel Jones. Not expecting too much from them in the playoffs but it’s nice to be in again.
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### Author:  [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/16 "2023-01-01T21:30:17Z")
I noticed early in the Giants game that it appeared every single lineman, both offensive and defensive, is now wearing those clear plastic shields in their face masks. Possibly the linebackers too. Can’t say I blame them, with Bellinger getting that eye injury and then Thibodeaux getting dinged in the eye on the last play last week. I guess it’s no more fucking around with eyes.
The Giants finally looked like a good football team. Daniel Jones looked solid, so I really wish they would stop calling these designed QB run plays. Up three touchdowns in the fourth quarter they did those three plays in a row, and Jones got hit pretty good on all three. It just makes no sense to me. Shortly after that the fans all started shouting Daniel, Daniel, so the coaches finally and wisely pulled him from the game to a raucous ovation from the crowd. It was a really nice moment.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/17 "2023-01-01T21:32:00Z")
Tampa Bay defeats the Panthers and clinches the NFC South.
One playoff spot left in the NFC. The Lions currently hold the spot at 8-8, but both the Pack and Seattle are 7-8 and are still playing today. Lions and Green Bay play next week; Seahawks host the Rams.
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### Author:  [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/18 "2023-01-01T21:33:55Z")
Does Washington still have a chance? Can I still root for an all-NFC East playoffs?
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/19 "2023-01-01T21:36:50Z")
> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Does Washington still have a chance?
They’re on the outside looking in right now, at 7-8-1, but they’re right now #8. I think they could still get in, but they’ll need to win next week, and get some help.
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### Author:  [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-seventeen-seconds/977243/20 "2023-01-01T21:38:05Z")
I cynically believe that starting Wentz was them throwing in the towel.
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