# NFL 2022: Week Thirteen Ghosts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [December 1, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867 "2022-12-01T17:21:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/81 "2022-12-06T02:01:09Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Which one will be on the outside looking in after week 18?

Another wild card here (oops, bad choice of wording) may be the fact that the Niners will be starting a rookie QB the rest of the season, unless they sign some journeyman off the streets. Their killer defense may be enough to carry them, but they could drop 3 of their last 5 and end up with 7 losses. One of their remaining games is against the Commanders, which might be a big one.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/82 "2022-12-06T02:12:36Z")

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Dec 15th is the second 49ers - Seahawks game  
Dec 18th is the second Giants - Commanders game. Maybe we need to postpone this discussion until the end of Week 15 because that week will answer a lot of questions.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/83 "2022-12-06T02:14:54Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Another wild card here (oops, bad choice of wording) may be the fact that the Niners will be starting a rookie QB the rest of the season, unless they sign some journeyman off the streets.

Well, they’ve signed Josh Johnson already (as noted upthread), who is an utter journeyman. And, as noted upthread, as well, Baker Mayfield was just released by the Panthers. Johnson is familiar with the system, at least, having been with the Niners in 2020 and 2021.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/84 "2022-12-06T12:59:51Z")

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Brady and the Bucs offense look pathetic for 55 minutes, then suddenly wake up and drive for two TDs to win by 1 - even overcoming a holding penalty that called back one game-winning touchdown. Amazing comeback, but I can’t imagine any (good) team watching the Bucs seems particularly scared at this point. They are not firing on all cylinders.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/85 "2022-12-06T21:28:55Z")

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Baker Mayfield is now a Ram.

The Rams had to put starting QB Matthew Stafford on IR this past Saturday, due to a spinal cord contusion he’d suffered two weeks ago. Backup John Wolford is also injured (a neck injury), and he may or may not be available for this Thursday’s game.

> **[Mayfield claimed off waivers by QB-needy Rams](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35195725/baker-mayfield-claimed-waivers-qb-needy-rams)**
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> Quarterback Baker Mayfield was claimed off waivers by the Rams on Tuesday after being cut by the Panthers a day earlier.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/86 "2022-12-06T23:01:36Z")

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Apropos of absolutely nothing, except that it’s interesting, Johnny Manziel turns 30 today.

Currently, he is the quarterback of the FCF Zappers of Fan Controlled Football.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/87 "2022-12-07T01:16:14Z")

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Catching up on PTI now I was shocked when I saw on the crawl that the Rams picked up Baker Mayfield instead of the 49ers. Then I thought since they picked him up off waivers, maybe the Rams had a higher priority than the 49ers and just stashed him to keep him away from a division rival.

Now hearing spinal cord contusion, yikes, I wish my imagination was correct for Matthew Stafford’s sake. That sounds ugly. With him having just won a ring, it kind of sounds career-ending to me. Probably not to him, though.

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/88 "2022-12-07T01:18:16Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Then I thought since they picked him up off waivers, maybe the Rams had a higher priority than the 49ers and just stashed him to keep him away from a division rival.

The Rams would, indeed, have had a higher priority on waiver claims, as I believe that those are done in reverse order of current record, so the Rams (3-9) would have been much higher on the list than the Niners (8-4).

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2022-week-thirteen-ghosts/975867/89 "2022-12-08T17:45:00Z")

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A committee from the U.S. House of Representatives has been conducting an inquiry into the Washington Commanders; the committee’s final report has been released. It’s pretty damning to both Commanders owner Dan Snyder, and the NFL:

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> [Washington Commanders](https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/wsh/washington-commanders) owner Daniel Snyder “permitted and participated” in the team’s longtime toxic work culture and obstructed a 14-month congressional inquiry by dodging a subpoena, working to dissuade and intimidate witnesses from cooperating and claiming more than 100 times in testimony that he could not recall answers to basic questions, according to the final report of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Reform.
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> The committee’s 79-page report released Thursday also comes down hard on the NFL, concluding that the league was complicit in Snyder’s efforts by not cooperating with the congressional inquiry and burying a 2020-21 investigation of the Commanders’ workplace led by attorney Beth Wilkinson, the results of which have never been fully released.

> **[Snyder allowed team's toxic culture, report finds](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35205965/snyder-permitted-participated-washington-commanders-toxic-culture-nfl-aided-cover-up)**
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> Commanders owner Daniel Snyder "permitted and participated" in the team's longtime toxic work culture and obstructed a congressional inquiry, claiming more than 100 times in testimony that he could not recall answers to basic questions.

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