# NFL 2023-2024: Super Bowl 58 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [February 4, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095 "2024-02-04T16:14:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/261 "2024-02-12T04:14:13Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > SF’s defense was brutal. taking him aside for 5 minutes might have gotten him on track faster Have you noticed how in games when there’s a change of possession, one QB goes to the sideline while the other team’s QB is on the field? No benching required to execute your genius plan of talking to the QB. ---
**Author:** ![RAWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@RAWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RAWDuke)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/262 "2024-02-12T04:14:16Z")
Do you think that Andy Reid realized that if the clock had expired in OT he wouldn’t have gone to the next OT period? He would have lost? They scored with 3 seconds remaining ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/263 "2024-02-12T04:15:35Z")
> [@RAWDuke](#): > > Do you think that Andy Reid realized that if the clock had expired in OT he wouldn’t have gone to the next OT period? He would have lost? I do not think that that’s true. Playoff overtime allows for multiple overtime periods, and each team is guaranteed one full possession; I don’t think that the clock had anything to do with it. I believe that, if time had run out in that OT period, it would have been akin to time running out in the 1st quarter of regulation time. Edit: If someone has a cite to say otherwise, I’d love to see it. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/264 "2024-02-12T04:16:19Z")
You can do a field goal with a second remaining. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/265 "2024-02-12T04:17:37Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I do not think that that’s true. I think that playoff overtime allows for multiple overtime periods, and each team is guaranteed one full possession; I don’t think that the clock had anything to do with it. I believe that, if time had run out in that OT period, it would have been akin to time running out in the 1st quarter of regulation time. Right. That’s what Romo and Nantz were saying at the end. They would have gone on to the 6th quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/266 "2024-02-12T04:26:21Z")
Yeah, new playoff overtime rules. They would have just gone onto the next 15 minute period. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/267 "2024-02-12T04:27:58Z")
Sorry, but that’s a really dumb stunt to pull. It blows my mind how bonkers that is. But hey maybe I’m the crazy one and everyone agrees with you that’s it’s a brilliant plan? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/268 "2024-02-12T04:29:22Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > taking him aside for 5 minutes might have gotten him on track faster. He eventually ended up doing what he should have been doing earlier. Can you cite ANY NFL playoff games that the starting QB is taken out for a series in favor of a backup who has barely played all season? Yeah, I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/269 "2024-02-12T04:31:11Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > But hey maybe I’m the crazy one and everyone agrees with you that’s it’s a brilliant plan? No, I’m thinking that it’s the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/270 "2024-02-12T04:32:15Z")
This one hurts. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/271 "2024-02-12T04:33:11Z")
Seen on Twitter: “The San Fransisco 49ers can still win the Superbowl if Mike Pence has the courage to do the right thing.” ---
**Author:** ![RAWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@RAWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RAWDuke)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/272 "2024-02-12T04:34:22Z")
Yep, I was wrong. Here’s what I found: “If the score is still tied at the end of an overtime period — or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended — the teams will play another overtime period.” So, KC could have continued possession into the next OT ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/273 "2024-02-12T04:34:40Z")
Gotta agree with the above about pulling Mahomes. That’s one of the dumbest things I might have ever heard. Maybe there’s a world out there pulling a QB at the professional level somehow “gets his head in the game” but it sure as heck ain’t this world. Maybe if you had a rookie or second year QB playing in his first Super Bowl (and I doubt even then). But not one who’s already had several seasons’ worth of postseason experience. The 49ers defense was solid all night, and it’s well known KC’s offense this season wasn’t exactly world beating. The thought of taking your best offensive weapon off the field boggles the mind > [@Bullitt](#): > > [The point spread is now 49ers by 2](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/super-bowl-58-odds-spread-line-chiefs-vs-49ers-picks-predictions-bets-from-nfl-insider-on-52-27-roll). > > I’m pulling for the 49ers but don’t see how they can be favored With the benefit of hindsight, the wisdom of the crowd (reflected by the betting to get the line there) was pretty good. It was tied at the end of regulation, and it really could have been a narrow margin SF win (or a narrow KC win) had only one or two things gone differently over the course of the game ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/274 "2024-02-12T04:35:41Z")
Maybe someone will have the courage to ask Kyle Shannahan if he thought about the strategy of benching Brock Purdy for a series or two in the third quarter? They might have won if they did. Maybe have some attack helicopters flown in to run some plays? ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/275 "2024-02-12T04:37:19Z")
Question : If SF won the overtime coin toss, why did they choose to receive the ball first? I’d think with the new rules it would make sense to kick if you win the coin flip. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/276 "2024-02-12T04:39:30Z")
I agree with deferring, especially if you’ve been struggling on offense. I think maybe the players and coaches haven’t really thought about or planned for the difference in playoff overtime. The new rules haven’t been used until now, after all ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/277 "2024-02-12T04:40:46Z")
I think they wanted to give their defense a rest. Maybe not the right call, but there’s some sense to it. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/278 "2024-02-12T04:40:54Z")
I’m looking at the box score. As one would expect in an overtime game, the stats are close: First downs: Chiefs 24, 49ers 23 Total yards: Chiefs 455, 49ers 382 Passing yards: Chiefs 325, 49ers 272 Rushing yards: Chiefs 130, 49ers 110 Penalties: Chiefs 6-55, 49ers 6-40 Turnovers; Chiefs 2, 49ers 2 Time of Possession: Chiefs 38:31, 49ers 36:26 ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/279 "2024-02-12T04:41:04Z")
This game needed more Gabbert. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/280 "2024-02-12T04:42:43Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > why did they choose to receive the ball first? Mahomes just said that if they had won the toss, they would have kicked off. Getting the ball second means you know exactly what you need to do to win. If you are trailing, you will go for it on every fourth down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095.md?page=15)